Return-Path: Received: from smtp3.gateway.net ([208.230.117.247]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 01:26:11 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer (1Cust207.tnt2.coeur-dalene.id.da.uu.net [63.20.49.207]) by smtp3.gateway.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA25874 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 01:31:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000201bf72c8$134cf720$cf31143f@oemcomputer> Reply-To: "dfs" From: "dfs" To: "Lancair List" Subject: Transfer Pump Procedure Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 22:30:04 -0800 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> This whole discussion has happened before. There are as many different ways to handle the problem of pumping fuel out of the overflow as there are builders. The first time I knew I had a problem with overfilling the header, it was because I could smell the unmistakable aroma of $2.20 per gallon go juice in the cockhouse. It immediately brought my attention to the fact that I'd switched on the transfer pumps and forgotten about it. I didn't like the potential consequences of 100 octane blowing into the slipstream so I decided I needed a visual warning when my header was full. It's a simple thing to design and build a bridge amplifier to sense the relative changes in two thermistors' temperatures. I simply put one in the ambient under the panel and the other inside the overflow/vent tube. As soon as the header is full and begins to dump fuel overboard, the thermistor in the tube is cooled drastically and the bridge amp turns on and lights a flashing LED (from Radio Shack). I have the LED right in front of my nose on the panel so it's hard to miss. I now never pump more than a drop or two over board before I catch it and turn off the pumps. The only problem I've had is explaining to a nervous passenger that the flashing red light doesn't mean an imminent crash. I've got the circuit somewhere in my new hangar (probably frozen though) and if any one is interested, as soon as things thaw out, I'll dig it up for them. I know I've promised this before but I didn't figure on just how cold it gets here in my new home. I seem to be able to work in the hangar for less than 15 minutes before I freeze! In re the pump configuration, I put two pumps in series and use a selector valve to select the source tank. I run both simultaneously (each pump is fused separately and electrically in parallel), though each are the pump-thru variety. Should one fail, the other will pump fuel from either wing (depending on the selector valve position). I did this because I have had one of the electronic Facet pumps fail in flight. With only one, or one dedicated to one side, you can see the problem. Either no fuel transfer or transfer from one side only. Dan Schaefer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>