Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #44097
From: Bob Smiley <rsmiley2@centurytel.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] product liability
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:36:59 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Creating another entity offers some limited protection. But lets ask a few questions.
 
Are you personally going to be building the aircraft?
Are you going to be the pilot?
Are you going to be doing the maintenance?
Are you a stockholder with voting rights in the company ie do you have some decision authority in the company?
 
If you answer yes to any of the above; you are involved in the business operations and are subject to personal liability exposure.  These are the risks we take in life. Only you can determine the risk reward benefits for your actions.
 
When an attorney goes after a company or organization, they also go after  its officers as a group, each person individually and all associated companies and persons involved in the operations. They attempt to pierce the corporate shell(s) wherever possible. Case in point.  Enron or Adelphia Communications.  You cannot forget those examples. In summary, the attorneys always ask the question "show me the money".  They search for the money and go after it.
 
I heard on the news yesterday that that dry cleaning company that was sued by a judge for, I believe it was, $61,000,000 over a pair of pants.  Well, the cleaners successfully defended the suit but he had to close down three of his dry cleaning stores because of lost business and legal fees to defend his position.  Go figure.
 
I know of two individuals who are members of the Puget Sound Pilots Association.  They pilot large ships through Puget Sound in Washington State.  They incorporate themselves and do not hire out as individuals.  Thus they are hired as Phillip Jones Inc.  I suppose if you incorporate yourself and fly PIC as Phillip Jones Inc.with zero assets you have two corporate shells to pierce; you might have some protection but you will still have to pay legal fees to defend yourself in a lawsuit.  In the case of a multimillion lawsuit you will have to pay substantial sums of money for your attorney's fees even if you are successful in defending yourself.  Can you just imagine at $300 per hour how many hours you would pay for to defend a $10,000,000 lawsuit? The cost could be substantial. You cannot have a successful defense and not pay your attorneys.
 
My attorney told me that the only way to be protected is to to carry insurance.  Shells do not work if someone is substantially damaged and you have a junk yard dog attorney attacking you.
 
The only way you can protect yourself is as follows:
 
1. you give away all your assets to your wife before any litigous event is known;
2. you, or a shell corporation, own the plane only;
3.you or your wife do not support the plane operation and maintenance costs from your personal incomes. Maybe you can do so in terms of non-voting shares in the stock of the plane.
4. You cannot have any voting rights or any incidence of control of the plane.
 
 
I also found out that Florida and Texas offer great protection on estate preservation in catastrophic legal situations.  The total value of your personal residence is protected from bankruptcy and attachment in legal actions.  That is why those corporate scoundrels are building 10-15 million dollar homes in Texas and Florida.
 
Bob Smiley
N94RJ
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