Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #44094
From: Halle, John <JJHALLE@stoel.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: Reno-- the good, the bad and the ugly
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:36:59 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
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From: asw20747@aol.com [mailto:asw20747@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 5:13 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Re: Reno-- the good, the bad and the ugly



John:

GREAT write-up!! 

Glad to hear you and the airplane are OK.  It is also REALLY encouraging to see how much support you got, especially at such a busy time as race week at Reno.

If you don't mind, a couple of follow-up questions to you and/or the group:

*  What kind of Lancair were you flying? 
 
Legacy 

*  Are all Lancairs prone to this problem that, if I understand correctly, the pads wear out.... the brake bottoms out.... you loose ALL your fluid and braking? (!!!) 
 
If the pads wear very thin or, as in my case, disappear into the ether, the piston is able to protrude from its housing enough that the o-ring is exposed and there goes your fluid (and the o-ring).  The consensus view is that the pads came off because they were allowed to get critically thin.  I can't refute that but, based on prior experience, long before they got that thin, I should have been getting rivet gouges in the disc (which I did not get.)  So, like most things in aviation it is a mystery to me . 

*  Is there anything you will do (or we could do) differently to keep this from happening? 
 
Obviously, check brake pads regularly.  Cleveland has a gapper tool (piece of plastic) that you can use to determine if there is enough remaining pad.  The night before  in the middle of braking on landing, the brake failed completely but pumped right back up.  The next morning I inspected carefully and there was no sign of hydraulic leakage so I suspected an air bubble in the system.  Brakes worked fine on start, taxi and t/o.  In retrospect, it was a sign.  Biggest thing I did wrong was not shutting down as soon as I got off the runway.  There was no need to test the system at that point and, with an obvious control problem there was just no decent reason to do what I did.  Isn't hindsight neat?

Thanks again for the report.

Regards,

Erik Larson



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