Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:16:18 -0500
From: Marvin Kaye <74740.231@compuserve.com>
Subject: Ice on LIV-IV
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Posted for "John Barrett":

Date:  08-Jan-00 19:58:27  MsgID: 870-51180  ToID: 74740,231
From:  "John Barrett" >INTERNET:2thman@olympus.net
Subj:  Ice on LIV-IV

Two more reports - indirect - I heard about these and haven't seen them in
this thread so will add my .02.

After Oshkosh last year a IVP was IMC at 21,000 somewhere over Montana. 
The ATC controller as well as the Strike Finder reported no cells ahead,
but there was a sudden entry into a rather violent cell that produced a
several thousand foot per minute ascent.  Soon the A/C was at 27,000 ft and
there was no opportunity to close the throttle to dump the nose because
pressurization would be lost.  The pilot reported about 1" of ice on
leading edge and golf ball size hail.  Close attention to keeping  up
airspeed successfully averted a stall or other departure from controlled
flight.  After about three minutes the cell was exited a precautionary
landing was made at Missoula.  The pressurization heat exchanger had impact
damage on the screen and there was minor paint damage on the cowling from
hail impact.  Otherwise the A/C was not damaged.  There was no report that
I know of about ice on the tail surfaces.  I doubt that there was
opportunity to take notice during the encounter.

The second actually preceded the above report and occurred about two years
ago north of Coeur D'Alene, Idaho.  The pilot and a passenger departed
Felts Field in Spokane and flew to Coeur D'Alene for fuel.  It was night
and they departed eastward intending to cross the mountains.  They are
known to have been circling at fairly low altitude over a lake a few miles
from the departure point when the A/C spun into an unoccupied home and
ended up in the basement.  Both pilot and passenger were killed.  The
speculation is that they got ice on the airframe and while circling to try
to maintain VFR, they decreased speed enough to encounter the fatal spin.

Regards,
John Barrett
PO Box 428
Pt. Hadlock, WA 98339
L-IVP
360 385 1000
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