Return-Path: Received: from inet-smtp3.us.oracle.com ([205.227.43.23]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 20:26:59 -0500 Received: from usmail01 (usmail01.us.oracle.com [130.35.60.80]) by inet-smtp3.us.oracle.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA10944 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 17:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from uwf00 by usmail01 with SMTP (SMI-8.6/37.9) id RAA28352; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 17:31:20 -0800 Message-ID: <002501bf571c$f6378e00$5c721990@us.oracle.com> From: "Steven B. Janicki" To: Subject: LN320 BRAKES Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 17:34:08 -0800 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Thought I would take a chance and share an idea I have for upgrading the brakes on my LN320 and solicit feedback from others as to their opinion of my idea. I want to point out before your read further that this is my personal opinion and not a suggestion for others to follow. With that said I began researching an alternate braking solution for my LN320 as I have been less than happy with the braking performance of the current Matco Single Piston Wheel and Brake Assemblies. I recently replaced the original Matco MC-5 self contained master cylinders with MC-4 units and a remote reservoir. As part of the brake replacement I installed new wheels and brake calipers, all of the latest revision from Matco / Lancair. My rationale for doing this was in part due to the addition of a second set of rudder pedals and the desire to improve braking. The addition of a remote reservoir was for ease of bleeding and greater fluid capacity. The upgrade to the latest single piston brake calipers and master cylinders did improve my braking though to date I am not all that pleased with the level of improvement. Next I visited the Matco WWW site http://www.matcomfg.com/ to review their product line and determine if there was a better braking solution for my LN320. Reviewing the 5" wheel products I came accross http://www.matcomfg.com/specs/w51lt.htm the W51LT Triple Piston Brake Assembly. Upon reading the product description and product applicability I noted the first paragraph with the following applicability statement: 'This wheel and brake assembly is designed for use on high performance aircraft from 1,2000-3,000 pounds with landing speeds 60-90 knots.' To me that certainly fit the description of my LN320. Next I sent an email to Matco Technical Support and requested more information about this product and to ascertain the feasability of a retrofit. The response I received from Matco was for a request for more information. They felt that the LN320 did not need the extra braking power that would be realized by the W51LT product and that the current single caliper brake was adequate. In my response I mentioned that my approach to landing speed range was 90 - 100 Mph with 15 - 20 degrees of flaps. My over the fence speed was 90 Mph with touchdown occuring around 80 Mph. I fly out of a 2600 x 75 ' hard surface runway and generally use 2/3 of the runway length to stop with some brake fade experienced toward the last 1/3 - 1/4 of the runway. I received the following response from Matco: From: MATCO mfg To: Steven B. Janicki Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 7:29 AM Subject: Re: Wheels for Lancair 320 Dear Mr. Janicki: Based on the information you supplied, the triple piston brake assembly would work best with your aircraft. Pricing for this wheel brake system (assuming you continue to use your current wheel assembly and upgrade only your brake system) is $112.84 each for the brake assembly plus $67.71 each for the brake disk. This would be approximately $385 per aircraft plus shipping. You may also want to check with your local distributors. Our MATCO part number is B5T for the brake assembly and D5T for the brake disk. Many companies such as Aircraft Spruce offer significant discounts to their customers. Please contact me if you have any questions or need additional information. Sincerely, Phyllis Montgomery MATCO mfg Any thoughts on this course of action would be appreciated. Regards, Steven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>