X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 30 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:09:17 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail10.tpgi.com.au ([203.12.160.147] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTPS id 1992656 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:06:57 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=203.12.160.147; envelope-from=domcrain@tpg.com.au X-TPG-Antivirus: Passed Received: from CRAIN (60-241-193-89.static.tpgi.com.au [60.241.193.89]) by mail10.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from domcrain@tpg.com.au) (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l3IN5foF016688 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:05:47 +1000 From: "Dominic V Crain" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: Re: Lancair's Down X-Original-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:05:34 +1000 X-Original-Message-ID: <007e01c7820e$1380ce30$0202a8c0@CRAIN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007F_01C78261.E52CDE30" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AceBwa8eAjb8+0d1Txyma9XX17jCBwAR9rmQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C78261.E52CDE30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Um - (Always start with an "Um") - If as suggested in another post = engine malfunction was a factor in both cases, apparent uncontrolled flight = into ground can only mean some level of mishandling. Now, before anyone goes off, that is not a criticism, just a point of opinion. There but for the grace of.. Well, I guess you can't use that = term anymore. I am sure AOA'sss would be valuable, and if I could afford it I'd stick = one in, amongst other desired goodies. (Yes - two factors must be obeyed, dollars and she). I mentioned it at the time, but last year up here in Aus., there was an accident which also was apparently due to engine malfunction. (Around = the same time, a low time PPL hit the dirt in bad weather, causing the local authority to give a heads up on Lancairs and their safety. There is a = bloke here who is with the SAAA who has asked for Lancair owners to make = inputs to a safety forum on the aircraft. Anyway my point is that like the old ejection seats in first generation jets, the old MB Mk 1, 2 at least, in the Lancair there is a no man's = land where you ain't got nowhere to go but straight ahead until you know you = have enough altitude and can turn to achieve a landing site better than the = trees ahead. And in either case you just gotta have airspeed to have control = and that has to be no less than your L/D ratio. If you have altitude, = excuses for not configuring begin to drop off. At low level, you are working = like a one-armed paper hanger, especially if you start from a low IAS base as = from take off. I love these discussions, except for the fact they start for reasons we = all wish were not the catalysts, as they help keep safety in the forefront = of ageing minds. And remember - brevity is a gift! Cheers chaps Dom Crain VH-CZJ (currently undergoing annual) =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C78261.E52CDE30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Um – (Always start with an = “Um”) – If as suggested in another post engine malfunction was a factor = in both cases, apparent uncontrolled flight into ground can only mean some level = of mishandling.

Now, before anyone goes off, that = is not a criticism, just a point of opinion. There but for the grace of…. = Well, I guess you can’t use that term anymore.

I am sure AOA’sss would be = valuable, and if I could afford it I’d stick one in, amongst other desired = goodies. (Yes – two factors must be obeyed, dollars and = she).

I mentioned it at the time, but = last year up here in Aus., there was an accident which also was apparently due to = engine malfunction. (Around the same time, a low time PPL hit the dirt in bad = weather, causing the local authority to give a heads up on Lancairs and their safety. There is a bloke here who = is with the SAAA who has asked for Lancair owners to make inputs to a safety forum on the = aircraft.

Anyway my point is that like the = old ejection seats in first generation jets, the old MB Mk 1, 2 at least, in = the Lancair there is a no man’s land where you = ain’t got nowhere to go but straight ahead until you know you have enough = altitude and can turn to achieve a landing site better than the trees ahead. And = in either case you just gotta have airspeed to have control and that has to = be no less than your L/D ratio. If you have altitude, excuses for not = configuring begin to drop off. At low level, you are working like a one-armed paper = hanger, especially if you start from a low IAS base as from take = off.

I love these discussions, except = for the fact they start for reasons we all wish were not the catalysts, as they = help keep safety in the forefront of ageing minds.

And remember – brevity is a = gift!

Cheers chaps

Dom Crain

VH-CZJ (currently undergoing = annual)

 

 

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