X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 2 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:04:11 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from relay4.av-mx.com ([137.118.16.122] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with ESMTP id 1917684 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:34:07 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=137.118.16.122; envelope-from=pinetownd@volcano.net X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from mx2.av-mx.com ([137.118.16.60] verified) by relay4.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with SMTP id 85994063 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:33:22 -0400 Received: (qmail 1836 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2007 01:33:21 -0000 Received: from 63-170-118-136.du.volcano.net (HELO DennisDell) (pinetownd@volcano.net@63.170.118.136) by 0 with SMTP; 13 Mar 2007 01:33:21 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 63.170.118.136 X-CLIENT-HOST: 63-170-118-136.du.volcano.net X-Original-Message-ID: <006301c7650f$941816f0$6501a8c0@DennisDell> From: "Dennis Johnson" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Paint at Home X-Original-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:33:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01C764D4.E70D95A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C764D4.E70D95A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I painted my Legacy in my home workshop, using single-stage PPG Delstar. = Like another poster said, painting your airplane is a huge project that = no sane person would do. However, no sane person would build their own = airplane either, so I guess we've all failed that test. Like any of the three part paints, you need a new activated carbon = filter respirator* or fresh air mask, and cover as much of your body as = possible. I wore a cheap painter's coverall, gloves, and a hat, which = worked well. When I sprayed the belly, I wore a face shield to keep all = the overspray from landing on my face and in my eyes. I have an = industrial exhaust fan in my shop, which was nice. =20 I chose the PPG Delstar specifically because it tolerates aggressive = sanding and buffing. I knew that I would end up with every insect in = the neighborhood entombed in my paint, as well as dust. You would think = that as I bald as I'm becoming, hair falling into the wet paint wouldn't = be a problem, but it was. The Delstar allows wet sanding as much as you = need to do to totally eliminate the dust nibs and bugs, as well as the = inevitable runs and sags and orange peel. Hosing down the floor = immediately before spraying was the single most effective thing I did to = reduce the number of dust nibs that ended up in the paint. But make = sure you don't accidentally get even one drop of water on what you're = going to spray. To remove light orange peel and minor bugs and dust nibs, I use P1500 = grit wet sandpaper. (The "P" means the sandpaper uses the European = scale, which is much different at finer grits than the US scale.) If I = had more patience, I'd use P2000 because it's easier to buff out the = scratches. I buy them from Klingspoor with peel-and-stick backing: = www.woodworkingshop.com If the paint balls up and clogs your sandpaper, = it's not cured enough. Wait another day or two, or even more in cold = weather. =20 After wet sanding, power buff with compound designed to remove P1500 = scratches, then power polish with compound designed to remove the swirls = left behind by the previous compound. You can get these from your local = automotive paint store. Harbor Freight sells power buffers that are = adequate for a single airplane, and incredibly low cost. For sags and runs, start with P800 grit paper. If you're the impatient = type, you can use coarser paper, even P400, but you might make scratches = that are hard to remove. Of course, the more you sand, the more likely = you'll cut through to the underlying primer or carbon. Work your way up = through the grits to P1500. Avoid sanding any edges, where you're = almost certain to cut through faster than you can say, aw _____!=20 So the good news is that Delstar single stage (and similar paints from = other companies) is well suited to spraying in a home shop. However, = when the single stage paints cure, the parts of the paint that make it = glossy migrate to the surface while it's curing, giving it the "wet = look" that doesn't need waxing. So the bad news is that sanding off = this top, glossy, layer means you'll have to wax the surface to get it = to look really shiny. There's no free lunch. On the other hand, I've seen Chris Zavatson's and Mike Reinath's painted = airplanes, which are way better than mine, so you might want to follow = their advice instead. Dennis Johnson, Legacy #257 =20 *I may be wrong, but I believe activated charcoal respirators safely = remove the toxic materials from these paints, but since the toxic = material has no smell, you have no way of knowing when your filter is = used up. This is why they are not recommended. I used a fresh air mask = from Aircraft Spruce. If you use a charcoal respirator, you might want = to open a new filter each time you spray and only spray in a well = ventilated area. If the spray area looks like you're in the fog, it's = not well ventilated. ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C764D4.E70D95A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I painted my Legacy in my home workshop, using single-stage PPG=20 Delstar.  Like another poster said, painting your airplane is a = huge=20 project that no sane person would do.  However, no sane person = would build=20 their own airplane either, so I guess we've all failed that test.
 
Like any of the three part paints, you need a new activated carbon = filter=20 respirator* or fresh air mask, and cover as much of your body as = possible. =20 I wore a cheap painter's coverall, gloves, and a hat, which worked = well. =20 When I sprayed the belly, I wore a face shield to keep all the overspray = from=20 landing on my face and in my eyes.  I have an industrial exhaust = fan in my=20 shop, which was nice.
 
I chose the PPG Delstar specifically because it tolerates = aggressive=20 sanding and buffing.  I knew that I would end up with every insect = in the=20 neighborhood entombed in my paint, as well as dust.  You would = think that=20 as I bald as I'm becoming, hair falling into the wet paint wouldn't be a = problem, but it was.  The Delstar allows wet sanding as much = as you=20 need to do to totally eliminate the dust nibs and bugs, as well as the=20 inevitable runs and sags and orange peel.  Hosing down the = floor=20 immediately before spraying was the single most effective thing I did to = reduce=20 the number of dust nibs that ended up in the paint.  But make sure = you=20 don't accidentally get even one drop of water on what you're going to=20 spray.
 
To remove light orange peel and minor bugs and dust nibs, I=20 use P1500 grit wet sandpaper.  (The "P" means the sandpaper = uses the=20 European scale, which is much different at finer grits than the US = scale.) =20 If I had more patience, I'd use P2000 because it's easier to = buff out=20 the scratches.  I buy them from Klingspoor with peel-and-stick = backing:  www.woodworkingshop.com = If the=20 paint balls up and clogs your sandpaper, it's not cured enough.  = Wait=20 another day or two, or even more in cold weather. 
 
After wet sanding, power buff with compound designed to remove = P1500=20 scratches, then power polish with compound designed to remove the swirls = left=20 behind by the previous compound.  You can get these from your local = automotive paint store.  Harbor Freight sells power buffers that = are=20 adequate for a single airplane, and incredibly low cost.
 
For sags and runs, start with P800 grit paper.  If you're the=20 impatient type, you can use coarser paper, even P400, but you might make = scratches that are hard to remove.  Of course, the more you sand, = the more=20 likely you'll cut through to the underlying primer or = carbon.  Work=20 your way up through the grits to P1500.  Avoid = sanding any edges,=20 where you're almost certain to cut through faster than you can say, aw=20 _____! 
 
So the good news is that Delstar single stage (and similar paints = from=20 other companies) is well suited to spraying in a home shop.  = However, when=20 the single stage paints cure, the parts of the paint that = make it=20 glossy migrate to the surface while it's curing, giving it the "wet = look"=20 that doesn't need waxing.  So the bad news is that sanding off this = top,=20 glossy, layer means you'll have to wax the surface to get it to look = really=20 shiny.  There's no free lunch.
 
On the other hand, I've seen Chris Zavatson's and Mike Reinath's = painted=20 airplanes, which are way better than mine, so you might want to follow = their=20 advice instead.
 
Dennis Johnson, Legacy #257   
 
*I may be wrong, but I believe activated charcoal respirators = safely remove=20 the toxic materials from these paints, but since the toxic material has = no=20 smell, you have no way of knowing when your filter is used up.  = This is why=20 they are not recommended.  I used a fresh air mask from Aircraft=20 Spruce.  If you use a charcoal respirator, you might want to open a = new=20 filter each time you spray and only spray in a well ventilated = area. =20 If the spray area looks like you're in the fog, it's not well=20 ventilated.
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