X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 10 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:07:29 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.169] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.6) with ESMTP id 1837397 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:25:50 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.249.92.169; envelope-from=bakercdb@gmail.com Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id k3so216162ugf for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:25:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ra8s9MtceU5pc7Bf/lwYpx2CarMuhQvKShmT+qQ3HlClpWIHd8m54O9pwt+pV9mwdHcSgDyUZudUCK8x2vAd+z26zKS6MrnjWnlLnkg9KvlrRvJhC4xTHBy7ki/X1GJPBeLRkhC9cVWAMykgfMsiQeOVuBmZfKXTwKThpA45SeY= Received: by 10.82.175.2 with SMTP id x2mr894170bue.1171466702255; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.31.6 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:25:02 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Message-ID: <175557b90702140725m201d9579xd80dea9df9e68eae@mail.gmail.com> X-Original-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:25:02 -0500 From: "Clark Baker" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: DH Lines- LNC-2's retrofit In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_69674_28573204.1171466702174" References: ------=_Part_69674_28573204.1171466702174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I On 2/13/07, dskeele@bellsouth.net wrote: > > Just a thought or two, after talking with DH Engineer, Mike Montgomery, > their connection nuts are 9/16" across the flat and right at 5/8" across the > corners. It takes a 5/8" hole to get the nut thru. The Nylon/Kevlar/Nylon > line itself is 4.9 mm O.D.-- 2.0 mm I.D. It is crimped hydraulically and > swedged at its tip onto the mandrel. No way to do this in the field. DH > will do a Swedgelok (sp?) end, will not test it and its still a bit more > that 1/4" on the upset. SOOO for a bunch us with the Nylok tuning ( and > shiethed in 0.132" O.D. Tygon or other) it's time to consider something > else.. The guys at Lancair still recommend the Nylok and mine has been well > shiethed and in service for 19 years. So, group what else is there ??? > AOG Don Skeele N320J > I retrofitted DH Lines (thanks to Brent Reagan combined with a little common sense) on my LNC2 360 with little problem. I also switched to Grove Brakes at the same time (another must IMO). I ran the DH lines all the way to from pedal to brake for simplicity. Biggest issue I remember is having to drill a ~5/8" hole in a not significantly structural area (one of the ribs in the wheel area?- it was a while ago). All in all, a one day job (brakes and lines). Or, maybe I just am a little slow to understand the problem mentioned above). I posted on this exact issue about 2yrs ago. Should be in the archives. Regards, Clark Bake LNC2- 360, 750hrs On 2/13/07, dskeele@bellsouth.net wrote: > > Just a thought or two, after talking with DH Engineer, Mike Montgomery, > their connection nuts are 9/16" across the flat and right at 5/8" across the > corners. It takes a 5/8" hole to get the nut thru. The Nylon/Kevlar/Nylon > line itself is 4.9 mm O.D.-- 2.0 mm I.D. It is crimped hydraulically and > swedged at its tip onto the mandrel. No way to do this in the field. DH > will do a Swedgelok (sp?) end, will not test it and its still a bit more > that 1/4" on the upset. SOOO for a bunch us with the Nylok tuning ( and > shiethed in 0.132" O.D. Tygon or other) it's time to consider something > else.. The guys at Lancair still recommend the Nylok and mine has been well > shiethed and in service for 19 years. So, group what else is there ??? > AOG Don Skeele N320J > ------=_Part_69674_28573204.1171466702174 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
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On 2/13/07, dskeele@bellsouth.net <dskeele@bellsouth.net> wrote:
  Just a thought or two, after talking with DH Engineer, Mike Montgomery, their connection nuts are 9/16" across the flat and right at 5/8" across the corners.  It takes a 5/8" hole to get the nut thru.  The Nylon/Kevlar/Nylon line itself is 4.9 mm O.D.-- 2.0 mm I.D.  It is crimped hydraulically and swedged at its tip onto the mandrel.  No way to do this in the field.  DH will do a Swedgelok (sp?) end, will not test it and its still a bit more that 1/4" on the upset.  SOOO for a bunch us with the Nylok tuning ( and shiethed in 0.132" O.D. Tygon or other)  it's time to consider something else.. The guys at Lancair still recommend the Nylok and mine has been well shiethed and in service for 19 years.  So, group what else is there ???   AOG    Don Skeele    N320J
 
I retrofitted DH Lines (thanks to Brent Reagan combined with a little common sense) on my LNC2 360 with little problem. I also switched to Grove Brakes at the same time (another must IMO).  I ran the DH lines all the way to from pedal to brake for simplicity.  Biggest issue I remember is having to drill a ~5/8" hole in a not significantly structural area (one of the ribs in the wheel area?- it was a while ago).  All in all, a one day job (brakes and lines). Or, maybe I just am a little slow to understand the problem mentioned above).
 
I posted on this exact issue about 2yrs ago.  Should be in the archives.
 
Regards,
Clark Bake
LNC2- 360, 750hrs
 
On 2/13/07, dskeele@bellsouth.net <dskeele@bellsouth.net> wrote:
  Just a thought or two, after talking with DH Engineer, Mike Montgomery, their connection nuts are 9/16" across the flat and right at 5/8" across the corners.  It takes a 5/8" hole to get the nut thru.  The Nylon/Kevlar/Nylon line itself is 4.9 mm O.D.-- 2.0 mm I.D.  It is crimped hydraulically and swedged at its tip onto the mandrel.  No way to do this in the field.  DH will do a Swedgelok (sp?) end, will not test it and its still a bit more that 1/4" on the upset.  SOOO for a bunch us with the Nylok tuning ( and shiethed in 0.132" O.D. Tygon or other)  it's time to consider something else.. The guys at Lancair still recommend the Nylok and mine has been well shiethed and in service for 19 years.  So, group what else is there ???   AOG    Don Skeele    N320J
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