X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 1 [X] Return-Path: Received: from [68.202.132.19] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.1.5) with HTTP id 1799802 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:15:50 -0500 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Turbine crash - power lost on takeoff: ba ba paperwork To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.1.5 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:15:50 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <007401c74432$c70a19d0$bbf107a0@engagethoughtware.com> References: <007401c74432$c70a19d0$bbf107a0@engagethoughtware.com> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1";format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "John Hafen" : I propose that we examine all incidents thoroughly so as not to repeat avoidable accidents/mistakes. I heard via the grape vine that the non-fast-build window blow out was a result of using Jeffco rather than Hysol to secure the windows. """ I was waiting for somebody to mention the obvious. Did anyone also notice that the field was in close proximity to Walter USA repair facility? I fly a turbine too and I think we should explore the root causes of the crash. I follow all turbine IVP incidents closely and a significant fraction of the fleet is no longer flying - pilot errors, stall practice after converting plane from piston to turbine, engine failure twice in two weeks with landing on icy runway totalling plane, another early model non-fastbuild window blowout, driving one into water near Provo, fuel mismanagement over Georgia, etc. """