Return-Path: Received: from postoffice.mr.net ([137.192.180.5]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:27:42 -0500 Received: by postoffice.mr.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06200 at Wed, 3 Nov 1999 19:31:58 -0600 (CST) SMTP "HELO" = mr.net But _really_ from ply12-225.nas.mr.net [137.192.58.225] SMTP "MAIL FROM" = msmith1@mr.net SMTP "RCPT TO" = Message-ID: <3820E12A.31491E46@mr.net> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 19:28:10 -0600 From: Michael D Smith To: "lancair.list@olsusa.com" Subject: Insurance X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> My IV is going to become a "serviceable asset" so to speak in the near future. As so, I started checking out the insurance premiums from Avemco. I checked last year, and when the cardiologists said it was OK to get going again after my cardiac event, I was relieved to see the posts about the options for insurance. I thought I might be in the clear after reading them, and I set about with the tasks of finishing the plane. However, I recently have called to AUA and London underwriters, and it seems like they have pulled the plug so to speak on the L4 market. No one is willing to write a policy for the plane. I am fairly experienced with about 1600 hours, 1200 in retracts, 400 in multi, and of course no claims, BFR's every six months, etc., but the plane and not the pilot has dictated the market. It seems like we are paying for the sins of our forefathers doing crazy stuff like flat spinning a IV when 600 pounds over gross, modifying fuel valves and blowing cylinders, trying maiden flights out of 2000 foot grass strips, using automotive hose for vital firewall forward lines, launching IFR into icing conditions, CFIT, and so on. I think this insurance situation is grossly unfair on several accounts and there many players. The factory above all has the ethical responsibility to inform the purchasing public, as it materially affects the resale and the operating costs. I believe the kit should be sold with the assertation it must be built with factroy authorized parts and engines. The fliers have the responsibility to use at least some of the God given synapses that must exist to be sensible. The insurance industry has the responsibility to charge justifiable premiums based on the airplane and the pilot, not based on some loss experience of some loose cannon and McGyver type builder. As much as we believe these are experimental airplanes, I think the reasonable ones of us would agree that we don't have the talent to experiment, nor should we, with a 300 knot airplane. Unless we are capable of proving that our modification is justifiable to aviation authorities and otherwise good guys like Brent and Fred, we should build these birds exactly like the factory says, as it was flown to Part 23 standards, with the factory being responsive and responsible for modification as they become aware to improve safety and efficiency. You could argue that this approach stifles innovation. As an experienced orthopedic surgeon who defends a lot of surgeons in court, I see that a lot with the draping of medical legal action for deviating from the "standard of care". But really is you look at where the true innovations come from, it is a select few dedicated folks that generate these changes for the better. The other innovators change because "getting caught is the mother of change." Other words, beware the surgeon who is good at getting out of trouble. I guess the bottom line is I am more than a little pissed I have to pay $13000 as a perfectly safe, experienced, and competent pilot flying a well built plan built to factory specifications by professional airframe avionics and finishing craftsmen using all TSO'd and certified parts because folks pulled a radiator hose off their Vega and made it work or machined a valve so they didn't have ot switch tanks from side to side and they killed themselves and ruined a beautiful airplane at the same time. I guess I just got another experience. The bottom line is there is a virtual monopoly going on, and we are all hooked to the wheel on this one. Does anyone out there have any suggestions regarding insurance? Michael D Smith >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>