X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [68.202.132.19] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.1c.4) with HTTP id 1400016 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:48:23 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: AW: MT-Propeller To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.1c.4 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:48:23 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1158090941.450710bda79b2@webmail.grandecom.net> References: <1158090941.450710bda79b2@webmail.grandecom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1";format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for mmcmanus@grandecom.net: A couple of points to add concerning parachutes. If you think about getting out of an airplane at 400', you are probably too late. In skydiving the recommended altitude to initiate emergency procedures is 1800' agl. Mr. Molny is correct that the parachute MAY open in about 400', but if that is your decision point to get out of an airplane, then you are probably too late by the time you exit. As far as exit speed. I have jumped out of 130s and 141s that were traveling at about 130+ knots or so. First, there is an air deflection door that is about 20" wide if memory serves. That helps to keep you from bouncing off the side of the fuselage behind the door. Second, when you get in the air, or relative wind as it is called in skydiving, at that speed the wind feels like a large piece of plywood that slaps your entire body. Honestly, if you aren't able to jettision a forward hinged canopy like on a Lancair or RV, it's pretty unlikely that you will be able to exit the airplane, especially at high speeds. You will indeed slow down to terminal velocity which is about 176'per second or around 120 mph. However, that assumes a flat and stable body position. If you are tumbling or somthing else, your terminal velocity will be higher. Although reserve failures are very rare, it is possible, so be sure the reserve is a category B, which is rate at 150 mph (or is it knots?) for a given weight. Keep in mind that you will probably pull the ripcord while you are not in a perfect body position. Most malfunctions and failures are due to poor body position during deployment, so the higher rated reserve is a good idea for this reason as well. Also, the parachute WILL open faster (and harder) at higher speeds. Also, I don't know of any drop zones in the country that would train you on round parachutes so that you'll know how to steer an emergency parachute. Everyone uses square parachutes now, even for students. And the reserve is most likely a square parachute too. You can probably buy a square reserve for a seat or back emergency rig, but I think that would be the exception. Most emergency rigs still have round reserves. Matt McManus LNC2 360