X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:46:26 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from relay-bm.club-internet.fr ([194.158.104.68] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.3) with ESMTP id 1377709 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:34:04 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=194.158.104.68; envelope-from=alainoireaux@club-internet.fr Received: from [62.34.70.190] (c01m-62-34-70-190.n.club-internet.fr [62.34.70.190]) by relay-bm.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D5C2561A for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:33:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Message-ID: <45070B86.7080502@club-internet.fr> X-Original-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:33:26 +0200 From: Alain NOIREAUX User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [Fwd: Re: [LML] Do the Dew Point affect the "Do" point - Like "Do" it go slower? Faster?] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010600090508080000050906" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010600090508080000050906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------010600090508080000050906 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re: [LML] Do the Dew Point affect the \"Do\" point - Like \"Do\" it go slower?Faster?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Re: [LML] Do the Dew Point affect the \"Do\" point - Like \"Do\" it go slower?Faster?" X-Identity-Key: id1 X-Account-Key: account2 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:29:47 +0200 From: Alain NOIREAUX User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Do the Dew Point affect the "Do" point - Like "Do" it go slower? Faster? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sky2high@aol.com a écrit : > OK performance fans - recently I became interested in aircraft/engine > performance related to air density. Most specifically, related to the > dew point. I was lucky enough to find an instrument (about $80) that > displays the air temperature, %humidity and dew point temperature. > The dew point is important to understand the air density difference > from the ISA standard predicted only by air temperature at some > altitude. > > I will be constructing a spreadsheet to calculate air density and plot > this against performance. I was inspired this last summer because, > after my prop was resealed, I thought the prop shop had dulled the > leading edge thus causing slow cruise speeds recorded on a series of > muggy days. Of course, the first slightly cooler day with seemingly > drier air returned the performance numbers to their prior levels. > > I don't have much data yet, but I must relate an interesting > experience as I flew home from Redmond. I was at 9500 MSL (10300 d > alt), 10C near KAIA (western Nebraska, ground about 4000 MSL), flying > in smooth air over a broken layer about 2000 feet below me. I was > doing 166 KIAS (192 KTAS) and decided to add dew point data. Using my > new instrument and sticking it in the vent air outlet, I first checked > that the temperature matched the outside at 10C. Then, I got a > reading of 48% humidity and a dew point (dp) at 0C. > > After taking that reading it got more interesting as the cloud layer > became quite scattered and the autopilot called for a trim > adjustment. Duly made, I noticed that the airspeed moved up to 168 > KIAS (195 KTAS) -so I took another reading: 6% hum and -25C dp. > Hmmmmm, only a few minutes had passed. > > Some minutes later, scattered layer now gone, I was at 167 KIAS (193 > KTAS) with 18% hum and a -11C dp. Verrrrrry interrrrrrresting. The > air mass composition, with respect to moisture, had changed quite a > bit in just tens of miles. So had the speed. Note that the outside > air temperature remained at 10C throughout. > > I can hardly wait to do more testing on hot and muggy days, if any are > still around this year. > > I have got to get better flight recording instrumentation. I hope > that the Garmin 430 WAAS upgrade, with 5 readings per second, will > report ground speeds in feet per minute instead of the sloppy Knots > (Yep, switched to Km, it has twice the accuracy). That is assuming > that ground speed is meaningful when the air mass changes. Too bad I > don't have those numbers for this stretch of flight. > > Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk > Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96 > Aurora, IL (KARR) > > A man has got to know his limitations. Hello Scott, it is interesting indeed . What is this instrument ? How does it look like ? Where did you find it ?Should you get a photo ? Have a nice day . Alain NOIREAUX L 320 --------------010600090508080000050906--