X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 00:37:48 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.3) with ESMTP id 1372808 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:58:11 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.157.36; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id q.57d.4d367fc (29678) for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:57:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <57d.4d367fc.3235ac01@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:57:21 EDT Subject: Do the Dew Point affect the "Do" point - Like "Do" it go slower? Faster? X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1157911041" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5330 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1157911041 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK performance fans - recently I became interested in aircraft/engine performance related to air density. Most specifically, related to the dew point. I was lucky enough to find an instrument (about $80) that displays the air temperature, %humidity and dew point temperature. The dew point is important to understand the air density difference from the ISA standard predicted only by air temperature at some altitude. I will be constructing a spreadsheet to calculate air density and plot this against performance. I was inspired this last summer because, after my prop was resealed, I thought the prop shop had dulled the leading edge thus causing slow cruise speeds recorded on a series of muggy days. Of course, the first slightly cooler day with seemingly drier air returned the performance numbers to their prior levels. I don't have much data yet, but I must relate an interesting experience as I flew home from Redmond. I was at 9500 MSL (10300 d alt), 10C near KAIA (western Nebraska, ground about 4000 MSL), flying in smooth air over a broken layer about 2000 feet below me. I was doing 166 KIAS (192 KTAS) and decided to add dew point data. Using my new instrument and sticking it in the vent air outlet, I first checked that the temperature matched the outside at 10C. Then, I got a reading of 48% humidity and a dew point (dp) at 0C. After taking that reading it got more interesting as the cloud layer became quite scattered and the autopilot called for a trim adjustment. Duly made, I noticed that the airspeed moved up to 168 KIAS (195 KTAS) -so I took another reading: 6% hum and -25C dp. Hmmmmm, only a few minutes had passed. Some minutes later, scattered layer now gone, I was at 167 KIAS (193 KTAS) with 18% hum and a -11C dp. Verrrrrry interrrrrrresting. The air mass composition, with respect to moisture, had changed quite a bit in just tens of miles. So had the speed. Note that the outside air temperature remained at 10C throughout. I can hardly wait to do more testing on hot and muggy days, if any are still around this year. I have got to get better flight recording instrumentation. I hope that the Garmin 430 WAAS upgrade, with 5 readings per second, will report ground speeds in feet per minute instead of the sloppy Knots (Yep, switched to Km, it has twice the accuracy). That is assuming that ground speed is meaningful when the air mass changes. Too bad I don't have those numbers for this stretch of flight. Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96 Aurora, IL (KARR) A man has got to know his limitations. -------------------------------1157911041 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK performance fans - recently I became interested in aircraft/engine=20 performance related to air density.  Most specifically, related to the=20= dew=20 point.  I was lucky enough to find an instrument (about $80) that displ= ays=20 the air temperature, %humidity and dew point temperature.  The dew= =20 point is important to understand the air density difference from the IS= A=20 standard predicted only by air temperature at some altitude. = =20
 
I will be constructing a spreadsheet to calculate air density and plot=20= this=20 against performance.  I was inspired this last summer because, after my= =20 prop was resealed, I thought the prop shop had dulled the leading edge thus=20 causing slow cruise speeds recorded on a series of muggy days.  Of cour= se,=20 the first slightly cooler day with seemingly drier air returned the performa= nce=20 numbers to their prior levels.
 
I don't have much data yet, but I must relate an interesting experience= as=20 I flew home from Redmond.  I was at 9500 MSL (10300 d alt), 10C near KA= IA=20 (western Nebraska, ground about 4000 MSL), flying in smooth air ov= er a=20 broken layer about 2000 feet below me. I was doing 166 KIAS (192 KTAS) and=20 decided to add dew point data.  Using my new instrument and sticking it= in=20 the vent air outlet, I first checked that the temperature matched the outsid= e at=20 10C.  Then, I got a reading of 48% humidity and a dew point (dp) at=20 0C.
 
After taking that reading it got more interesting as the clou= d=20 layer became quite scattered and the autopilot called for a trim=20 adjustment.  Duly made, I noticed that the airspeed moved up to 168 KIA= S=20 (195 KTAS) -so I took another reading: 6% hum and -25C dp.  Hmmmmm= ,=20 only a few minutes had passed.
 
Some minutes later, scattered layer now gone, I was at 167 KIAS (193 KT= AS)=20 with 18% hum and a -11C dp.  Verrrrrry interrrrrrresting.  The air= =20 mass composition, with respect to moisture, had changed quite a bit in just=20= tens=20 of miles.  So had the speed.  Note that the outside air temperatur= e=20 remained at 10C throughout.
 
I can hardly wait to do more testing on hot and muggy days, if any are=20 still around this year.
 
I have got to get better flight recording instrumentation.  I hope= =20 that the Garmin 430 WAAS upgrade, with 5 readings per second, will report gr= ound=20 speeds in feet per minute instead of the sloppy Knots (Yep, switched to= Km,=20 it has twice the accuracy).  That is assuming that ground speed is=20 meaningful when the air mass changes.  Too bad I don't have those numbe= rs=20 for this stretch of flight.=20
 
Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96
Aurora, IL (KARR)

A m= an=20 has got to know his limitations.
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