Return-Path: Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.7]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:03:34 -0400 Received: from ZAKSPEEDE@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id oNUQa17081 (4003); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:07:43 -0400 (EDT) From: ZAKSPEEDE@aol.com Message-ID: <0.4e6003f0.254b3c6f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:07:43 EDT Subject: LPE or ZEHRBAC engines To: rlperry@juno.com CC: lancair.list@olsusa.com X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I saw your e mail on the fantastic fuel burn reductions that you got from having LPE - ZEHRBACH rework your Lycoming 360. 15% is a whopping reduction. That matches the reductions stated by other LPE-ZEHRBACH customers in the testimonial letters which were on display at Oshkosh for just the ceramics and not counting the electronic fuel injection and ignition system results that I saw letters on. The fact that your results match everyone elses letters sure supports Zehrbach. Some of the customers tests showed 25% reductions in fuel burn with the combination of electronics and the ceramics. What now has me absolutely intrigued is the water cooled engine results. In a package of test results sent to me was the results of a customers third party tests on one of the Zehrbach engines where the engine returned an SFC of .32. Since Continental hopes to get .36 out of the diesel they are developing it would appear that Zehrbach has been able to beat the diesels by 12% on fuel burn. That must come out in total to at least 1/3rd less fuel burn on the Lancair IV when comparing the Continental vs the Zehrbach water cooled engine. The other factor is going to be the cooling drag advantage. With such good thermal efficiency the cooling drag should be way down on the IV with the Zehrbach engine. I would bet that the cooling drag is probably about 30% of the total drag on the IV so a big reduction there would mean lots of speed and more than just pouring horsepower on the situation. I would guess that the cooling efficiency is why the Eagle engine package has that enormous ugly bug catcher on the belly to go with that geared auto conversion instead of everything being inside the cowl like I understand is being done with the Zehrbach engine. I understood from the Zehrbach literature that you must be the man putting the inverted, direct drive, 500 hp., twin turbo charged and intercooled V8 in his Lancair IV and who has one of their air conditioners in their plane now. Your email implies that fact. Is that correct? I really like the design of that direct drive engine. Keeping the rpm down to 2700 will sure help the engine life along with getting rid of all of that gearbox weight behind the prop. It also seems that gearboxes are the pox of the attempts of all of the auto engine converters like the Engine Air or Eagle to run V8 engines. You said that the temperatures were falling every time you flew with the new engine. After you get some more time on it I would like to hear the final lows on the temperature changes. Thanks, Zak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>