X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 16:55:13 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web34915.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.68.194] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with SMTP id 1113270 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 14 May 2006 18:52:46 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.191.68.194; envelope-from=n103md@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 39626 invoked by uid 60001); 14 May 2006 22:52:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JIboimaAvI/Gy0TxzMXOgyLL1im0FzpBYgBo+p3yKgzbWiikxKTqAzVTqfHT40rXkphR57RORtYiwFJA6gQg/v4WJpcesXVdYw1H294AW0kweDTuahTkButKaGW3QgFbzXbjeEcLR0ORdmQPQPUoZs5h2Gs1ZKo+1AHbqgAyScw= ; X-Original-Message-ID: <20060514225202.39624.qmail@web34915.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.12.132.145] by web34915.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 May 2006 15:52:02 PDT X-Original-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 15:52:02 -0700 (PDT) From: bob mackey Subject: Power-off descending 360 degree Landings X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-535759977-1147647122=:37145" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --0-535759977-1147647122=:37145 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Fly over the arrival end of the runway at 500' above the pattern > altitude. Reduce power to idle, lower the flaps and gear as you > make one descending 360 degree turning glide and touch down > on the first one-third of the runway. > > Does anyone know if this can this be done in a Legacy? I haven't tried it in a Legacy, but I've done this several times from 800' in my 235/320. i.e. slightly below the traffic pattern. I've been reading a bunch of Navy formation manuals and learning what they have to teach. Seems they have quite a bit of experience in trying to get a flock of fighter back aboard the ship in a hurry. Crossing the numbers at 180 kias, I pull power, and pull into a climbing high-G turn to burn off speed. At about 160 deg of turn (the Perch), I am a still a bit over gear speed (120 kias) as I roll out and continue climbing to 120 kias. Then drop the gear, start lowering the flaps and roll into a descending turn to the numbers. The turn continues nose low and about 80-90 kias with 1-2 yellow lights on the AoA. Level the wings and start flaring at the numbers. Like a glider approach, the maneuver is flown without looking at the altimeter. All position references are by angles. This is especially important in an emergency landing, as you won't have time to look up the altitude of your chosen field on the topographic map. In a Legacy - i.e. with a big high compression engine and big probably-flat windmilling prop, the descent angles will be steeper to overcome the immense prop drag. -bob --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. --0-535759977-1147647122=:37145 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> Fly over the arrival end of the runway at 500' above the pattern
> altitude.  Reduce power to idle, lower the flaps and gear as you
> make one descending 360 degree turning glide and touch down
> on the first one-third of the runway.
 >
> Does anyone know if this can this be done in a Legacy?
I haven't tried it in a Legacy, but I've done this several times
from 800' in my 235/320. i.e. slightly below the traffic pattern.
I've been reading a bunch of Navy formation manuals and
learning what they have to teach. Seems they have quite
a bit of experience in trying to get a flock of fighter back
aboard the ship in a hurry.
Crossing the numbers at 180 kias, I pull power, and pull into a
climbing high-G turn to burn off speed. At about 160 deg of turn
(the Perch), I am a still a bit over gear speed (120 kias) as I
roll out and continue climbing to 120 kias. Then drop the gear,
start lowering the flaps and roll into a descending turn to the
numbers. The turn continues nose low and about 80-90 kias
with 1-2 yellow lights on the AoA. Level the wings and start
flaring at the numbers.
Like a glider approach, the maneuver is flown without looking
at the altimeter. All position references are by angles.
This is especially important in an emergency landing, as
you won't have time to look up the altitude of your chosen
field on the topographic map.
In a Legacy - i.e. with a big high compression engine and
big probably-flat windmilling prop, the descent angles will
be steeper to overcome the immense prop drag.
-bob

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