In a message dated 3/18/2006 3:28:01 A.M. Central Standard Time,
jschredl@web.de writes:
Would you mind to discuss this problem with
me?
I
live in Freising close to Munich, Germany and build a Lancair 320 (IO-320
brand new engine) D-ESWS with first flight in Oct. 1995 and logged about 420
hours.
Since the beginning of flight I found my
CHTs close to the recommedet limits (using EPI800 with 4
probes):
During climbing (120 MHP) all 4 CHT about up to
450°F
During crouse (75%) all 4 CHT about
400°F.
Oil
Temperature is perfect about 180-210°F.
My
target it to reduce CHT for best engine operating life
time!
Main
reason: I already had to change two cylinder heads because of low compression:
35PSI of 80PSI and 50PSI of 80PSI. I donīt know if exactly this was the
reason but I think a lower CHT couldnīt be
wrong!
Here are some information about my "cooling problem" and what I
did until now:
1. I still use the cowling air
inlet cut out diameter of the original Lancair kit (about
3.7")
2. I made a pressure
cowling:
Bevore
After
I
made the pressure cowling out of carbon fibre sandwich using a 360°F prepreg
system
Result: no siginficant change!!!! Beleve me: I was
frustrated!
Positive: the weight of the pressure cap is about 0,4 lbs which is
about the weight of the removed silicone rubber! And: it looks like "high
tech" (donīt ask about the hours I spend to make
it)
3. I tryed to make more
professional investigations by checking the pressure situation above and
be low the cylinder head (see red
circle) :
I
run two thin tube s (green)
form "above cylinder head" and "below cylinder head" into the cockpit to a
Airspeed Indicator to compare it with the aircraft air speed during
flight.
I
expected: having a good pressure cowling, the "speed above cylinder head"
should be about or less of the
value of aircraft speed; the "speed below cylinder head" sould be about zero
(ideal below zero-> suction)
Result: "speed above cylinder head" is about 75% form indicated
aircraft speed which is pretty good i think!
But:
"speed below cylinder head" is about 40% form indicated aircraft speed which
is much to high!!!! There is only 35% pressure difference
left form a maximum of (theoretical)possible
100%!!!!
Why
is below the cowling a high
positive pressure when there should be a slight
suction?
My
opinion: there is a perfect (and sufficient) pressure "above the cowling" but
very bad conditions (positive pressure) "below the cowling". Target is it to reduce this positive pressure below the cylinder
head ...
4. My exlanation:
there might be turbulences
under my cowling which prevent air form escaping! I suspected my nose gear cut
out to cause turbulences:
Cut out cause
turbulences?
Small door close cut out when gear retrected
Now
I modified the cowling and added a small door which closed the nose gear cut
out after retrection of the nose gear.
In a
new flight I measured the pressure again "speed below the
cowling"
Result: no significant change!!! (Frustration)
5. In a earlier modification I enlarged
my lower cowling outlet: to get space for my muffler and more space for air
outlet:
This is situation right now and I think about other sulutions to reduce
positive pressure below the cowling...
What I do not understand is:
I thought the passing air under the cowling (blue curve) is acting like a
venturi effect to suck the cooling air (red curve) out of the
cowling.
Obviously Iīm
wrong!
If you neet more detail information
donīt hesitate to ask! Would be great to discuss this problem with other
people...
Any
idea?
Johannes,
I have removed the pictures to shorten the reply.
I am sending this and my reply to the LML - maybe there will be more
ideas.
I had been to Munich many times in the early 1980s and even started a
subsidiary there (no longer in existence). I used to take morning runs in
Englischer Garten. Ahhh, fond memories of the past.........
All of the replies given on the LML are quite good, but let's try to tie
everything together for your situation.
1. Measurements:
a. CHT. There is some question as to the correctness of the
CHTs. As was suggested, dip a probe in boiling water and note the
temperature for calibration purposes. Remember that the boiling point
changes downward if the water is not pure and you are located where the
conditions are not standard sea level (i.e. higher altitude). Old
style CHT probes used special resistant wire to connect to the display device -
If I remember correctly, if the wire was shortened from its' original length,
the temperature indication would be artificially higher.
b. Cowling air pressure differentials. Generally the standard used
for reporting such pressure differentials has been inches of water (" H2O). Thru
the rest of this reply I am going to use English measurements and let you
convert to metric where necessary. Airspeed indicators have been plumbed
in (pitot/static) because they are easy to use and airspeeds (pitot ram air
pressure differential from static) can easily be converted to inches
of mercury (" Hg) or " H2O. In order to get good cowl pressure
readings, the openings must not be affected by air flow. As others have
mentioned, some sort of filter or mesh could be used. Another more common
way is to create a picolo tube - a metal tube pinched close at one end and many
holes drilled into the tube that is then inserted into the tubing leading to the
sensor. Placement should be in a non turbulent location. 5 to 7 "
H2O difference between the upper and lower plenum is considered sufficient
pressure for cooling.
I have also used a spare altimeter open to the cockpit for making
other measurements (after corrections) against ambient (static) pressure
without tapping into my aircraft static/pitot system. For example, in
my LNC2, the cockpit is .1"Hg (1.36" H2O) less at 120 KIAS to .3"Hg (4.1"
H2O) at 190 KIAS. My upper plenum has varied from 9 to 13 (or more) "
H2O higher the lower, depending on speed, and the lower plenum is about 2"
H2O higher than ambient (static) although I don't remember the change for
speeds. This means the lower cowl is about 5-6" H2O pressure higher
than the cockpit at high speeds.
In your chart example, At 180 KIAS, the upper/lower cowl indicated about
135 KIAS or about 11.9" H2O. The reason you cannot see the same speed as
your aircraft is because the aircraft pitot tube is measuring ram air pressure
in a closed chamber - the cowling is not closed as the air is moving thru
it. The numbers you report (if correct) indicate more than
adequate pressure for cooling. The lower cowl/ambient showed about 65 KIAS
or 2.8" H2O - also OK. Indeed, your numbers compare to mine quite
favorably. Remember that the incoming air expands from heating. I
don't think there is any problem with some pressure in the lower cowl as long as
the upper/lower difference is sufficient to get air to flow.
The chart below is useful for converting KIAS to inches of water. The
left 2 columns are examples of my IO 320 in different parts of flight. "Cowl
Kts" is airspeed as measured by pitot/static differences between upper and lower
cowl.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Aircraft |
Cowl |
Delta |
Delta |
Delta |
Flight |
IAS
Kts |
Knots |
"H2O |
"Hg |
PSI |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
34.8 |
0.79 |
0.06 |
0.028 |
|
|
39.1 |
1.00 |
0.07 |
0.036 |
|
|
43.4 |
1.23 |
0.09 |
0.044 |
|
|
47.8 |
1.49 |
0.11 |
0.054 |
|
|
52.1 |
1.77 |
0.13 |
0.064 |
|
|
56.5 |
2.08 |
0.15 |
0.075 |
|
|
60.8 |
2.41 |
0.18 |
0.087 |
|
|
65.2 |
2.77 |
0.20 |
0.100 |
|
|
69.5 |
3.15 |
0.23 |
0.114 |
|
|
73.9 |
3.56 |
0.26 |
0.129 |
|
|
78.2 |
4.00 |
0.29 |
0.144 |
|
|
82.6 |
4.45 |
0.33 |
0.161 |
Climb |
140 |
86.9 |
4.94 |
0.36 |
0.178 |
Climb |
150 |
91.2 |
5.45 |
0.40 |
0.197 |
|
|
95.6 |
5.98 |
0.44 |
0.216 |
Level |
165 |
99.9 |
6.54 |
0.48 |
0.236 |
Climb |
160 |
104.3 |
7.12 |
0.52 |
0.257 |
|
|
108.6 |
7.73 |
0.57 |
0.279 |
Level |
176 |
113.0 |
8.37 |
0.62 |
0.302 |
Level |
185 |
117.3 |
9.03 |
0.66 |
0.326 |
|
|
121.7 |
9.72 |
0.71 |
0.351 |
Level |
200 |
126.0 |
10.43 |
0.77 |
0.377 |
|
|
130.3 |
11.17 |
0.82 |
0.403 |
|
|
134.7 |
11.93 |
0.88 |
0.431 |
|
|
139.0 |
12.72 |
0.94 |
0.460 |
|
|
143.4 |
13.54 |
1.00 |
0.489 |
|
|
147.7 |
14.39 |
1.06 |
0.520 |
|
|
152.1 |
15.26 |
1.12 |
0.551 |
|
|
156.4 |
16.15 |
1.19 |
0.583 |
|
|
160.8 |
17.08 |
1.26 |
0.617 |
|
|
165.1 |
18.03 |
1.33 |
0.651 |
|
|
169.5 |
19.00 |
1.40 |
0.686 |
|
|
173.8 |
20.01 |
1.47 |
0.722 |
|
|
178.1 |
21.04 |
1.55 |
0.760 |
|
|
182.5 |
22.10 |
1.62 |
0.798 |
|
|
186.8 |
23.18 |
1.70 |
0.837 |
|
|
191.2 |
24.29 |
1.79 |
0.877 |
|
|
195.5 |
25.44 |
1.87 |
0.919 |
|
|
199.9 |
26.60 |
1.96 |
0.961 |
Here is a partial list of some of the causes for high
CHTs.
Airflow:
The ideal cooling condition is to slow down the incoming air, direct it to
the right places and speed up the air for exit.
Slowing the air - If the air is not slowed, it can produce high pressure
blockage on the fins. Some have found that a short slowly
expanding tube at the entry (less than 7 degrees divergence) will slow the air
down and retain its' pressure. There is an excellent article in the March,
2006 issue of EAA Sport Aviation on cooling (Control the Flow).
Directing the air - The cooling air is best utilized by passing
it thru all the upper cylinder head fins where most of the heat
is. I noted that you have two large air exits at the back of the baffling
- can these be causing the air to pass over the cylinders rather than down thru
them? Possibly creating a low pressure area where you need the flow the
most.
Speeding up the air for exit - Not much we (LNC2) can do here because
of tight cowling.
Timing:
You don't mention whether you are using magnetos or some other
device. Timing advance can raise CHTs. You don't mention what caused
the low compression readings - burnt exhaust valves, bad rings? I see you
have nitrided cylinders (blue paint), are you using high compression
pistons?
Oil:
Oil accounts for a good part of the cooling. Although your temps sound
reasonable, it is when they occur that is important. I am using a separate
NACA duct for my very small oil cooler. The oil temps are 180F in cruise
at warm OATs but rise to 200F in the pattern and after landing because of poor
airflow thru the NACA at slow speeds. Is this pattern similar to yours or
do you see 200F+ oil temps in cruise?
It would be helpful to see a collection of numbers such as
Altitude, Baro, OAT and airspeed
RPM, MAP and fuel flow
CHTs and EGTs for each cylinder.
It seems to me that your CHTs should not be as high as they are in
cruise. It will be interesting to find out why. After all your work
to date, it is very puzzling.
Again, the pressure seems good, but is the air slowed enough and
getting to the right places? Are your probes calibrated? How
different are the CHTs between cylinders?
I hope this helps.
Scott Krueger
AKA Grayhawk
Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96
Aurora, IL
(KARR)