X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [65.33.136.166] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 5.0.8) with HTTP id 1038179 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:36:44 -0500 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: LNC2 cooling problem To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.0.8 Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:36:44 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3C9DAEDC-3901-441B-8E90-B7269632F74D@adelphia.net> References: <3C9DAEDC-3901-441B-8E90-B7269632F74D@adelphia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for Gary Casey : Johannes, You are thinking correctly. I agree with Chris in that some of your problem might be in the sealing and shape at the inlet - it is critical that there be minimal leaks there. Using the airspeed indicator as a pressure sensor is a good idea, but you have to be a little careful regarding the reference (static) pressure. You have referenced it to the cabin, which is probably okay, but there will be some error in the measurement. If you have an alternate static source that references the cabin it would be best to turn that on before making measurements and then compare the "airspeed" indication to that. Also, remember that your cooling pressure ("air speed") gauge is indicating speed, but the pressure it is measuring is proportional to the square of the indication. Example: if you had an indicated airspeed of 71% of the aircraft indicated speed, the pressure is only 50% of the total dynamic pressure. I think you have a good location for the measurement with the hose looking at the fuel distributor, which will block any dynamic contribution. I've found that the airspeed inside the cowl is low enough to pretty much eliminate the sensitivity to the orientation of the pressure hose - anywhere in the cowl looking in any direction will pretty much read the same thing. I've doubled the hose back on itself and then wrapped a cloth around it or you can get a scrap of open-cell foam and stuff the end into it, but none of that will make much of a difference. Bottom line is that you would like at least 75% pressure recovery in the upper cowl, which will give an "air speed" reading of 87% of the aircraft indicated airspeed (the airspeed indicator measures pressure so, yes, you do want it to read HIGH, unlike what was suggested in one post). You are getting 56% recovery, not terrible, but could be better. As for the lower plenum pressure, you would like it to be as high (not low) as possible GIVEN adequate cooling. If you are running too hot then you will probably want to lower the lower cowl pressure. Your lower cowl pressure is only 12% of the dynamic pressure (airspeed indicates 35% of the aircraft speed), actually on the low side. I think you should improve the efficiency of the nozzle that accelerates the air back up to speed at the outlet. I believe from your pictures the lower edge of the firewall ends in a sharp edge, causing turbulence at the outlet. This should be a smooth converging shape, converting the lower cowl pressure into velocity, reducing drag. The real question is, what is your objective? Do you have to improve the cooling or are you trying to reduce drag? In either case the shape and sealing of the inlet is very important. In either case the shape of the air outlet is important. After those are optimized then reduce the area of the outlet until the cooling is adequate. From what I can tell the area of the inlet is not the critical factor - an oversize inlet, if correctly shaped, is not a big factor in drag reduction. Hope this discussion helps Gary Casey