X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 15:09:58 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.4.56.87] (HELO hotmail.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 1021581 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 11:02:54 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.4.56.87; envelope-from=n320g@hotmail.com Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:02:09 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: Received: from 71.143.10.186 by BAY101-DAV15.phx.gbl with DAV; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 16:02:08 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.143.10.186] X-Originating-Email: [n320g@hotmail.com] X-Sender: n320g@hotmail.com From: "N320GG" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Charlie's pet peeve X-Original-Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 07:57:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2006 16:02:09.0676 (UTC) FILETIME=[D3AD7CC0:01C63EDB] I am with Jack on this, I always listen and if there is plenty of radio chatter, I don't worry too much. However when I pull my airplane out and warm it up and haven't heard anyone on the radio, I give the ATITAPA call. I may even follow up with can any tell me if this radio is working and am I on the right freq? A couple of times I have had pilots report back. Sorry Charlie, you are just going to have to put up with us. Gary Melton N320GG LNC2 600hours > Posted for jldysart@zirkel.us: Charlie: I live in the rocky mountains. > Like most of the local pilots, when flying > over the continental divide from Denver, or when leaving my Steambboat > Springs traffic area to fly 20 miles to Hayden (also uncontrolled) I > change to the appropriate CTAF, announce my position, and use the phrase > "ANY TRAFFIC IN THE AREA PLEASE ADVISE". It is very comforting when > flying my CESSNA (LNC2 due to be completed later this year) to hear AA, > Delta, NW, United, King Air, Lear, and other "(idiot)"?? commercial > pilots > who also have just entered the valley and just switched over from Center > frequency give me accurate location and altitude. I do not expect these > commercial pros to pop over the high terrain and go into a holding > pattern > listening for the GA pilot who might be practicing approaches in the > vicinity. > Nor am I put off by their arrival and request for other-traffic > information; it is a courtesy that I appreciate. If I am already in the > pattern, my routine announcements of DOWNWIND, BASE, and FINAL will > suffice to answer the query. Outside of the pattern I will respond if > there is a remote chance that my location might affect their approach -- > it's better than being sucked into a 737 intake. I've actually had a > commercial carrier offer (and execute) a 360 because I was entering the > pattern ahead of him. Perhaps when I have a few thousand more hours I'll > become more arrogant, but I hope not; safety is a shared responsibility. > Jack Dysart