X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [69.171.58.236] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 5.0.8) with HTTP id 1021249 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:19:41 -0500 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: Charlie's pet peeve To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.0.8 Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:19:41 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1794.63.255.15.26.1141278991.squirrel@www.zirkel.us> References: <1794.63.255.15.26.1141278991.squirrel@www.zirkel.us> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for jldysart@zirkel.us: Charlie: I live in the rocky mountains. Like most of the local pilots, when flying over the continental divide from Denver, or when leaving my Steambboat Springs traffic area to fly 20 miles to Hayden (also uncontrolled) I change to the appropriate CTAF, announce my position, and use the phrase "ANY TRAFFIC IN THE AREA PLEASE ADVISE". It is very comforting when flying my CESSNA (LNC2 due to be completed later this year) to hear AA, Delta, NW, United, King Air, Lear, and other "(idiot)"?? commercial pilots who also have just entered the valley and just switched over from Center frequency give me accurate location and altitude. I do not expect these commercial pros to pop over the high terrain and go into a holding pattern listening for the GA pilot who might be practicing approaches in the vicinity. Nor am I put off by their arrival and request for other-traffic information; it is a courtesy that I appreciate. If I am already in the pattern, my routine announcements of DOWNWIND, BASE, and FINAL will suffice to answer the query. Outside of the pattern I will respond if there is a remote chance that my location might affect their approach -- it's better than being sucked into a 737 intake. I've actually had a commercial carrier offer (and execute) a 360 because I was entering the pattern ahead of him. Perhaps when I have a few thousand more hours I'll become more arrogant, but I hope not; safety is a shared responsibility. Jack Dysart