X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [69.171.58.236] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 5.0.8) with HTTP id 1000884 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:33:44 -0500 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Dangerous Attitudes To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.0.8 Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:33:44 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <17665A45-2329-4507-98AF-A92FD367B945@cox.net> References: <17665A45-2329-4507-98AF-A92FD367B945@cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for Wesley Hunt : Mark, I'm a retired Navy Flight Surgeon with 23 years of active duty, and have some experience in aircraft accident investigation. I'm well aware of the wall between the mishap investigation on the safety side and the JAG investigation. The issue here is whether the pilot knowingly operated the aircraft in a reckless manner that resulted in a bad outcome, or whether his experience and skill on a particular occasion were not sufficient despite his best efforts. Example: an experienced F-14 pilot on a night carrier landing, correcting right to left and landing long, hits an A6 resulting in the loss of 2 multimillion dollar national assets and several injuries. Bad outcome. His skill, on that particular occasion was not sufficient to prevent a mishap, but it was surely not "rogue" behavior. The primary question for the Court was whether there was reckless behavior on the part of the pilot that resulted in this tragedy. My sense at the time, having followed it closely, was that there was a strong desire on the part of the chain of command, starting in the Oval Office and DOD, to scape goat the aircrew to fend of the ire of the Italians. The US government actually looks better with a conviction. If the primary cause of the mishap was a defective DOD chart, then DOD is the culprit. If the pilot's reckless flying was the cause, then DOD can blame the "rogue" pilot and punish him. The prosecution certainly went all out for a conviction. The members of the Court, all Marine Corps officers, considered all the evidence and concluded that he was innocent. You seem to suggest that the members of the Court would knowingly acquit the defendants when they actually believed them to be guilty. Perhaps I have greater faith in the honor of Marine Corps officers than you, but then I spent a tour as a Flight Surgeon with a Marine Aircraft Wing and know them well. You weren't in the cockpit that day (nor was I) so you can't know whether the pilot was knowingly reckless or having a bad day despite his best efforts. Only the pilot knows the truth. Semper Fi!