X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 00:21:59 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta9.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.199] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 998798 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:02:21 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.168.78.199; envelope-from=dfs155@adelphia.net Received: from f3g6s4 ([70.36.5.58]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20060226200131.SFJG12914.mta9.adelphia.net@f3g6s4> for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:01:31 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <005e01c63b0f$83cc7280$0201a8c0@f3g6s4> From: "Dan Schaefer" X-Original-To: "Lancair list" Subject: Overhead approach questions X-Original-Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:02:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Though I agree (mostly) with the various listers giving advice regarding proper execution of the overhead approach, I do have a small quibble. Instead of just announcing to the tower that you've set up two miles out for the overhead with all the other info (planning a right break over the numbers, etc., etc.) and then reconsidering if you don't like what you hear, try calling the tower as you would if making a "normal" entry (e.g. 5 or 6 miles out, with the ATIS and your location and BEFORE entering their airspace) and REQUESTING the overhead. If the person on the mike knows what you're talking about and have a standard overhead that they like to use, you'll get something like "Lancair 123 ZZ, overhead approach approved, fly runway 19 heading at or above 1600 feet, break left at mid-field, report two miles". On the other hand, if you hear something like "UH, Lancair 123 ZZ, UH, say again!", I'd say your decision is already made for you while you're still outside of his airspace and you can make an approach that the controller understands. I've used this method often and it works for me. Dan Schaefer