X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 02:05:48 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from gateway1.stoel.com ([198.36.178.141] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 997782 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 10:06:02 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=198.36.178.141; envelope-from=JJHALLE@stoel.com Received: from PDX-SMTP.stoel.com (unknown [172.16.103.137]) by gateway1.stoel.com (Firewall Mailer Daemon) with ESMTP id 525F1EB34D for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:04:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from PDX-MX6.stoel.com ([172.16.103.64]) by PDX-SMTP.stoel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:05:17 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Overhead approach questions X-Original-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:05:16 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: <17E9FE5945A57A41B4D8C07737DB6072038913BD@PDX-MX6.stoel.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: lml Digest #1523 Thread-Index: AcY5+raNDXSCDNy+QBW7HfJbF2EMJQAIOLcQ From: "Halle, John" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2006 15:05:17.0162 (UTC) FILETIME=[E32EACA0:01C63A1C] <> You are quite right that most civilian pilots do not understand what an = overhead break is. For that reason, at an uncontrolled airport, my = personal assumption is that the break cannot be done if it is going to = be even close to a traffic problem. If the pattern seems crowded, I = don't try it and if a problem seems to be developing on initial, I break = it off. I don't assume that any other pilot will react appropriately to = what I am doing and assume that all spacing issues are my responsibility = alone. If there is another aircraft in the pattern and I am sure that I = can come in without conflict, I do sometimes announce whether I intend = to enter the pattern in front of or behind the other aircraft. If it is = in front, I will be at least 1/2 mile in front. If behind, it will be = well behind. In either case, I am saying that the other pilot doesn't = have to worry about me. I don't think it helps much to talk about my = airspeed or path because this assumes that I am asking other pilots to = note these facts and do something about them, which I think is too much = to expect. The good news is that a break entry is a perfect way to see = where all the traffic is before being committed to the break because it = is all right in front of you and you can be pretty sure that, unless = someone else is coming in for a break at the same time, there won't be = traffic on initial.