X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:39:13 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: <5zq@cox.net> Received: from eastrmmtao03.cox.net ([68.230.240.36] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.7f) with ESMTP id 957130 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 08:10:47 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.240.36; envelope-from=5zq@cox.net Received: from [172.18.52.8] (really [172.18.52.73]) by eastrmmtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20060128130959.FLQH29285.eastrmmtao03.cox.net@[172.18.52.8]> for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 08:09:59 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.15 (webedge20-101-1103-20040528) From: <5zq@cox.net> X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Lancair Legacy Roll Out 900' ? X-Original-Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 8:10:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Original-Message-Id: <20060128130959.FLQH29285.eastrmmtao03.cox.net@[172.18.52.8]> Jeese Greg, Somethin's wrong. I've got a small tail 320 and I can flare and make a full stall landing with about a 55kt touchdown. After touchdown I can keep the nosewheel off down to maybe 40 kts. On a softfield takeoff, I can get the nosewheel off early and do a substantial part of the takeoff roll with the nosewheel off the ground. Hard to believe that our airframes are that different. I ain't ever seen a "pretty" 3 pointer in a nosewheel airplane. Bill Harrelson 5zq@cox.net N5ZQ 320 1,150 hrs N5ZQ IV 5% Roll Out 900' ? > > Charles wrote in part, > > "I need little braking when landing downhill and none when landing uphill, even if my flare wasn't everything it should have been." > > I am very envious, Charles, because I have never been able to get any 200 or 300 series of Lancairs that I have flown to "flare". They stall, sink, mush or even drop a wing in ground effect but they will not truly flare nor will they hold the nose off the runway at all. Similarly, on my 360, holding the stick pulled aft while accelerating, the very moment the stall meter indicates adequate lift for gross-weight takeoff, the nose heads to the sky and the rest of the a/p follows without hesitation. In a C172, I could travel the entire runway with the nose held off and the mains solidly pinned to the runway but the Lancair 360 will not do that at all; not even for a moment. Any attempt to flare on landing will cause either a climb at a dangerous attitude or else loss of lift in stall such as to slam the aircraft onto the runway. I'm not complaining because I, and perhaps most other Lancair 360 pilots, simply float the a/p and use the time in float to inch the plane towards the > runway to achieve a "pretty" mostly 3-point landing. > > My question to you is, Does the Legacy really flare? Can you hold the nose up and off for some time after the plane has touched? If so, this would indicate substantially greater elevator authority in the Legacy than in earlier models (Never have flown the Mark II). Even if true,... I still love my 360! Greg Nelson >