Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #33593
From: Skip Slater <skipslater@earthlink.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Where has all the power gone?
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:50:25 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Paul,
   In defense of the "Ada crew" you referred to, let's set the record straight on a few things you mentioned.
   First, let me state that I'm an EI user, advocate and believer.  I have a normaly aspirated IO-540 with one mag and one LSE.  In 300 hours, I've had my mag out twice for repairs.  While my LSE is the second EI, I've had (the first was an Electroair that gave me nothing but trouble until I finally gave up and replaced it) once I got it set up properly, it's been trouble free.  So I'm with you on EI's.
   What the Ada guys deal with is hard fact and quantifiable data.  The primary supplier if the EI's in use in the experimental market is Klaus Sauvier and he refuses to provide anyone any data on the timing curves used in the LSE ignitions.  Without that, nobody can do a thorough analysis of them because they have no manufacturer's baseline to work with.  It's that lack of data that gives pause to the Ada guys recommending something they can't put on their test stand with hard data points.  I've attended the APS seminar and that's the reason they gave when I brought this up in class (along with a few other attendees).
   As for PRISM, when George Braly says it's ready for prime time, you can take that to the bank.  That system will likely have more time in airplanes and on what is probably the most heavily instrumented test stand available anywhere than anything similar that Klaus or anyone else has ever put out there.  It will also be certifiable.  In complexity, principle and operation, it will be far superior to any FADEC system on the market now or on the drawing boards that I know of.  I like proven systems too, but PRISM has been flying for quite some time now and is proving to be just as good as envisioned when George came up with the concept.  The main thing holding it up is the availability of some of the mass produced components due to one particular supplier.
   I know of no more knowledgable engine experts than the "Ada crew".  George Braly and anyone he associates himself with are eminently qualified to comment on any piston powered power plant subjects discussed on the LML.  I don't feel their reluctance to support EI technology is because they don't think they work, it's because they can't verify that they do everything they advertise.
  I'll keep happily flying with my LSE until PRISM is available, but I'll also listen with great interest to anything the "Ada crew" has to say in this forum.
   Skip Slater
   N540ES  
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