X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:23:36 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from wind.imbris.com ([216.18.130.7] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.2) with ESMTPS id 847065 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:12:35 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.18.130.7; envelope-from=brent@regandesigns.com Received: from [192.168.1.100] (vsat-148-63-101-227.c002.t7.mrt.starband.net [148.63.101.227]) (authenticated bits=0) by wind.imbris.com (8.12.11/8.12.11.S) with ESMTP id jAQKBcDM066459 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:11:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brent@regandesigns.com) X-Original-Message-ID: <4388C171.9090005@regandesigns.com> X-Original-Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:11:29 -0800 From: Brent Regan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Chelton and the Crossbow NAV425EX AHRS problem Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090206070109080701040403" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090206070109080701040403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When Chelton introduced their certified EFIS they licensed Direct-To to market the experimental "Sport" version. In an effort to reduce price, Direct-To made a deal with X-Bow to design a low cost, exclusive version of their certified AHRS. In exchange Direct-To would provide flight testing resources and an established market. The NAV425EX was the child of this union. X-Bow then introduced the 420 and proceeded to sell it to Chelton's (and Direct-To) competitors (e.g. OP). This was no great surprise as X-Bow had previously received significant (and critical) engineering assistance from Chelton during the work to certify the AHRS500 series, a product they then turned around and made available to the general market. Not to single out X-Bow because another vendor, Free Flight (WAAS GPS), also received critical assistance from Chelton to certify their product, a product also now widely used by Chelton competitors. Fortunately for the customer, Chelton chooses to compete in the marketplace by offering a superior product, rather than trying to suppress and / or monopolize technological advances. A rising tide raises all boats. For the past eight years Chelton (formerly Sierra) Flight Systems has been the leader in EFIS technology with a very long list of firsts. The experimental product's software is derived directly for the Level A certified code that runs in the certified product. In fact, due to the delays introduced by the ongoing certification process, the experimental produce's code gets feature updates before the certified product. Chelton has a long history of supporting their customers and have regularly made hardware and software updates available. Chelton's design team is second to none. All are IFR rated pilots. The software's architect and chief designer has multiple engineering degrees, a law degree and is a former F-18 instructor! The hardware designers also designed EFBs for Boeing.....and Honeywell, and Rockwell Collins, and Canadian Marconi (CMC), and Northstar Technologies as well as many other products for aerospace, medical and oceanographic markets. It was this team that succeeded in achieving certification where Honeywell, after spending over $90M, failed. Chelton already has most of the features the competitors "plan to introduce", "are working on" or "will be available in the next release". This has precipitated the introduction of some curious competitor's "features". The OP approach plate display is an example. If you have a flight path marker, highway in the sky (HITS), VNAV and all the approaches in your database overlaid on terrain and obstacles, as Chelton does, you don't need or want to display a paper approach plate. Same reason you don't need an HSI display. If you know your position in three dimensional space then lateral position and heading (HSI) is already known and doesn't need to be displayed on a separate, confusing indicator. What is next, a sextant page? Don't take my word for it, research it yourself and you will see that the Chelton systems offer the best value. Bell Helicopter came to that conclusion and awarded Chelton their OEM contract, reported to be worth in excess of $100M over the next decade. It seems Chelton will be around to support your future needs and they already have the largest customer base. It is this large customer base that lead to the discovery of the X-Bow 425 design problem. It is a problem that does not occur in all units or in any particular installation so you needed a lot of flight hours in many planes to even know there is a problem. It is reasonable to expect that the problem is also present in the 420 (used by OP and others) but has not yet surfaced because there are not enough of them flying. I know that Direct-To and Chelton are dedicated to solving this issue and are supporting X-Bow in their efforts. Intermittent problems like these are difficult to fix because they must be first isolated then reproduced, fixed, tested and a solution deployed. I am confident that a solution will be made available soon as this problem does not occur in the AHRS500 certified product. These are my personal opinions and statements. I do have a business relationship with both Chelton and Direct-To so you should start with the assumption that everything I say is wrong and work your way up from there. I am also an arrogant, opinionated, bloviating know-it-all so there is no need burning bandwidth saying something that is already public knowledge. Wishing all Lancair pilots and builders a Merry Christmas and a warm hanger. Regards Brent Regan --------------090206070109080701040403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When Chelton introduced their certified EFIS they licensed Direct-To to market the experimental "Sport" version. In an effort to reduce price, Direct-To made a deal with X-Bow to design a low cost, exclusive version of their certified AHRS. In exchange Direct-To would provide flight testing resources and an established market.  The NAV425EX was the child of this union. X-Bow then introduced the 420 and proceeded to sell it to Chelton's (and Direct-To) competitors (e.g. OP). This was no great surprise as X-Bow had previously received significant (and critical) engineering assistance from Chelton during the work to certify the AHRS500 series, a product they then turned around and made available to the general market. Not to single out X-Bow because another vendor, Free Flight (WAAS GPS), also received critical assistance from Chelton to certify their product, a product also now widely used by Chelton competitors.

Fortunately for the customer, Chelton chooses to compete in the marketplace by offering a superior product, rather than trying to suppress and / or monopolize technological advances. A rising tide raises all boats.

For the past eight years Chelton (formerly Sierra) Flight Systems has been the leader in EFIS technology with a very long list of firsts. The experimental product's software is derived directly for the Level A certified code that runs in the certified product. In fact, due to the delays introduced by the ongoing certification process, the experimental produce's code gets feature updates before the certified product. Chelton has a long history of supporting their customers and have regularly made hardware and software updates available.

Chelton's design team is second to none. All are IFR rated pilots. The software's architect and chief designer has multiple engineering degrees, a law degree and is a former F-18 instructor! The hardware designers also designed EFBs for Boeing.....and Honeywell, and Rockwell Collins, and Canadian Marconi (CMC), and Northstar Technologies as well as many other products for aerospace, medical and oceanographic markets. It was this team that succeeded in achieving certification where Honeywell, after spending over $90M, failed.

Chelton already has most of the features the competitors "plan to introduce", "are working on" or "will be available in the next release". This has precipitated the introduction of some curious competitor's "features".  The OP approach plate display is an example. If you have a flight path marker, highway in the sky (HITS), VNAV and all the approaches in your database overlaid on terrain and obstacles, as Chelton does, you don't need or want to display a paper approach plate.  Same reason you don't need an HSI display. If you know your position in three dimensional space then lateral position and heading (HSI) is already known and doesn't need to be displayed on a separate, confusing indicator. What is next, a sextant page?

Don't take my word for it, research it yourself and you will see that the Chelton systems offer the best value. Bell Helicopter came to that conclusion and awarded Chelton their OEM contract, reported to be worth in excess of $100M over the next decade. It seems Chelton will be around to support your future needs and they already have the largest customer base.

It is this large customer base that lead to the discovery of the X-Bow 425 design problem. It is a problem that does not occur in all units or in any particular installation so you needed a lot of flight hours in many planes to even know there is a problem.  It is reasonable to expect that the problem is also present in the 420 (used by OP and others) but has not yet surfaced because there are not enough of them flying.

I know that Direct-To and Chelton are dedicated to solving this issue and are supporting X-Bow in their efforts. Intermittent problems like these are difficult to fix because they must be first isolated then reproduced, fixed, tested and a solution deployed. I am confident that a solution will be made available soon as this problem does not occur in the AHRS500 certified product.

These are my personal opinions and statements. I do have a business relationship with both Chelton and Direct-To so you should start with the assumption that everything I say is wrong and work your way up from there. I am also an arrogant, opinionated, bloviating know-it-all so there is no need burning bandwidth saying something that is already public knowledge.

Wishing all Lancair pilots and builders a Merry Christmas and a warm hanger.

Regards
Brent Regan
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