Return-Path: Received: from mail3.centuryinter.net ([209.142.136.99]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:05:11 -0400 Received: from pavilion (ppp094.pa.centuryinter.net [209.142.129.236]) by mail3.centuryinter.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA12422 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:08:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000501beefc4$2fe64080$ec818ed1@pavilion> From: "J. N. Cameron" To: "Lancair List" Subject: Tank Sealer; Closing ES Wings; Radio noise update Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:08:30 -0500 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On the subject of the Jeffco tank sealer, try this: Get two or three of the small cold packs, the plastic bagged things you put in the freezer and use to keep your brew cold. Get several throwaway aluminum pie pans at your local grocery store. When you mix up the tank sealer, put two or three cold packs in one pie pan, then set another on top of it, and mix your sealer in the upper one. This helps two ways -- the cold packs prolong the pot life, and the shallow depth also helps prevent exotherm. The downside is that the low temperature does make the stuff a little tarry to apply, but after a few seconds on the glass surface, it warms right up and can be brushed out. By doing this, I found I could mix up a fair quantity and still get it on before it started to smoke. Regarding closing the ES wings, I think I used between 2 and 3 quarts of Hysol for each wing. The spreading tool described in the manual was not very useful, as it tended to drag the Hysol along and not give the proper buildup. I just shaped the Hysol on top of the spar and spar caps with tongue depressors. How much you will need will depend on how close a fit you've gotten with the flox buildup on top of the spar, but I tapered the Hysol/flox final mix so that there was maybe 3/32" at the spar edges, and probably 1/4" at the center. After doing the flox releases (took me 2 or 3 to fill the space), you can check the gap with modelling clay, as per Marv's suggestion, but clean well afterward -- I found that the clay left greasy marks everywhere I put it. You want enough to get really good squeeze-out everywhere. Better to have globs of excess Hysol droobling around inside than to have voids. After all, what can you add, maybe a pound or two to the total weight? Incidentally, cover everything like aileron bellcranks with masking tape or plastic bags because the Hysol will definitely ooze into some places you'd rather not have it. Weighting the wing skin during close-out is also pretty critical, and do put some long boards over the spars before stacking on weight. If you don't, the wing skin will come out wavy as the dickens. You'll probably have something like 400 pounds of weight on the wing to properly apply pressure. Over that large an area, it takes a lot of weight to get all that Hysol (plus a bit of flox) squeezed out properly. Finally, it would be fun to hear from anyone who has actually managed to close out a wing with epoxy/flox rather than Hysol. I cranked the A/C down in my shop to a rather uncomfortable level, worked as fast as I could and had help mixing, and still barely managed to finish within the pot life of the Hysol. With epoxy/flox it would have to look like one of those old speeded-up movies (Keystone cops with rubber gloves)! The Lancair folks should probably just delete that stuff from the manual, if they haven't already. Good luck! With two coats of the Jeffco sealer and plenty of Hysol during wing closure, I haven't had any fuel tank leaks. Radio noise update: Following some of the many excellent suggestions by LML subscribers, I have done two things, one of which apparenty cured the horrendous noise I was getting through my headset during COM transmit. Step one was to remove the audio alarm input coming from the Jim Frantz annunciator panel. Step two has to do with the way I wired my passenger seat headset jacks. When I built the panel, I brought a lot of things to plugs at the two lower corners, so that I could drop the panel in and later connect up with mating plugs coming from wherever. For the rear seat headset jacks, I used audio connectors that I thought were shielded. When I went back and a had a look, however, I realized that one half of the plug was not shielded, and the shield therefore was not continuous through the plug. The audio leads from the plug to the rear seat jacks were probably acting like an antenna, feeding stray RF directly into the audio panel. To definitively say which of these two steps did the most good, I need to plug the passenger wiring back in and fly again. Whichever it was, the noise has been dropped by maybe 90%, and is now at an acceptable level. Temperfoam seats: I promised a report after flying from Texas to Wisconsin with my new Temperfoam (=Conforfoam) seats, but instead of doing that, we spent most of the weekend evacuating ahead of hurricane Brett, then getting everything put back together again. Fortunately, at the very last moment Brett veered west and went in through the King Ranch, an area in which almost no one lives. N82500 went to Alice to a very stout steel hangar, then back here again on Tuesday. The seats are very comfortable -- you're just not aware of them at all. Nice. Jim Cameron, LNCE N82500 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML homepage: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html