X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:34:27 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.9] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c5) with ESMTP id 772715 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:02:16 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.9; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id q.1c4.33420e2e (4254) for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:01:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <1c4.33420e2e.3086cab9@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:01:29 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Electronic Ignition X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1129672889" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5009 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1129672889 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/18/2005 12:46:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, marv@lancaironline.net writes: Scott Any particular reason you choose LSE over the P-mag? My main concern with the P-mag is the heat that the software would be subjected to! Also, I believe you used the dual LSE set up! I was looking at just replacing one side with LSE or Electroair set up, that is until I read about the P-mags! All: Thank you for your replies. I am currently investigating the reasons for my IO-360B1B rough idle and hard starting. Electronic ignition is but one of the remedies I am looking at. Scott, 1. P-Mag had no history, no experience and users that they could reference (except for one aerobatic guy that had experience with one E-Mag). There was no hi compression experience. 2. They are big and I have no room. 3. There is no timing data (like the LASAR). BUT, I do like the configuration switches on the units. 4. Regardless of how irritating Klaus is, the LSE system is proven although not simple. Klaus races! 5. If I want, I could adjust the timing of the LSE system. The heat should not affect ROMs. However, you are correct to be concerned. E-Mags have been around a while yet there is not enough info about them. Arnie has had no problem with the P-Mags so far on his Lancair 360. I am not impressed by "moderates" or one sided electronic ignitions. While they are better than two mags (EIs, not moderates), I will never be convinced that flame fronts started at totally different times is an effective ignition system. If you have reached a point where the mags need to be overhauled, you should seriously look at the P-Mags - especially if you just want to fly rather than screw around like I do. Now, to your problem. EIs won't fix poorly running engines but can be a good replacement for bad mags. Are you sure the idle mixture is proper? Are your mags/points worn out? Ignition leads in good shape? Plugs properly gapped and clean? All plugs good? ....... Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96 Aurora, IL (KARR) -------------------------------1129672889 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 10/18/2005 12:46:29 P.M. Central Standard Time,=20 marv@lancaironline.net writes:

<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>Scott
Any particular reason you choose LSE over t= he=20 P-mag? My main concern with
the P-mag is the heat that the softwa= re=20 would be subjected to! Also, I
believe you used the dual LSE set=20 up! I was looking at just replacing one
side with LSE or Electroa= ir=20 set up, that is until I read about the P-mags!

All:&n= bsp;=20 Thank you for your replies. I am currently investigating the=20 reasons
for my IO-360B1B rough idle and hard starting. Electronic= =20 ignition is but one
of the remedies I am looking=20 at.

Scott,

1. P-Mag had no history, no experience and users that they could refere= nce=20 (except for one aerobatic guy that had experience with one E-Mag). The= re=20 was no hi compression experience.

2. They are big and I have no room.

3. There is no timing data (like the LASAR). BUT, I do like the=20 configuration switches on the units.

4. Regardless of how irritating Klaus is, the LSE system is proven alth= ough=20 not simple. Klaus races!

5. If I want, I could adjust the timing of the LSE system.

The heat should not affect ROMs. However, you are correct to be=20 concerned. E-Mags have been around a while yet there is not enough inf= o=20 about them. Arnie has had no problem with the P-Mags so far on his Lan= cair=20 360.

I am not impressed by "moderates" or one sided electronic ignitions.&nb= sp;=20 While they are better than two mags (EIs, not moderates), I will never be=20 convinced that flame fronts started at totally different times is an effecti= ve=20 ignition system.

If you have reached a point where the mags need to be overhauled, you=20 should seriously look at the P-Mags - especially if you just want to fly rat= her=20 than screw around like I do.

Now, to your problem.

EIs won't fix poorly running engines but can be a good replacement for=20= bad=20 mags. Are you sure the idle mixture is proper? Are your mags/poi= nts=20 worn out? Ignition leads in good shape? Plugs properly gapped and=20 clean? All plugs good? .......

Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96
Aurora, IL=20 (KARR)

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