X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:25:08 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.68] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c5) with ESMTP id 770018 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:52:03 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.68; envelope-from=aadamson@highrf.com Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.86.218]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20051016145119.UKGE11836.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:51:19 -0400 Received: from Typhoon ([68.19.86.218]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20051016145118.UVCL12154.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@Typhoon>; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:51:18 -0400 From: "Alan K. Adamson" X-Original-To: "'Dan Ballin'" , "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: lancair build assist X-Original-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:51:09 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <007401c5d261$0bf03740$0501a8c0@highrf.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcXSUweBnKHjIJLqSv+YUrDNpI1yoQACeahA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <0595F3E9-4391-49FE-BA93-CFAF588F0E1F@tufts.edu> Dan, no problem on the individual response. However, I figured others may want to know as well, so I'm also posting this back to the list. BY ALL MEANS, BRING A (only one) HELPER! There is no way you can stay on schedule with only one of you, plus, you can actually get ahead with two of you! Seriously, more than 2 of you will get in the way. 2 and you each can be doing a separate task. Plan your work day accordingly. - If you check ahead, there is usually someone at the Lancair facilities at 7am, so make sure you show up early and work from 7a to 5p instead of the published 8 to 5. You'll be working by yourself, but there are a million things you can do, prep, ready, etc, before regular hours. - The crew will come in at 8, work till, 10, take a 10 min break, work till noon, take lunch for an hour, work till 3, take a 10 min break, and work till 5. The place evaporates at 5p, no more work after 5. Bring your camera and take pictures at each break, during lunch and after 5. I just couldn't seem to get many in while working, you'll be very busy then. Work the weekends. - If you check ahead each week, you can usually work each Saturday as well. I was there for 4 weeks and with the exception of the week that I went to the Reno air races, I worked every Saturday and all day on those days. You won't have a lancair crew (actually, you may, mine worked with me one Sat morning), but you can do lots of little catch-up, or get ahead jobs Be frugal, but plan ahead. - Remember, you are using "the shops" glass, epoxy, sand paper, etc. This means you need to be frugal, but also means, that you should use it to get all those things done that you don't want to do or can't do easily when back at home. - Lancair has lots of "molds" and templates that you'll want to make or use while there (ask your foreman, if you don't learn quickly where they are) Example. - AHRS shelf, if you are going with an AHRS, you'll need to get the template, make the shelf and then do a 6 or 8 bid lay-up on a 2x4 for the L brackets that hold it. There is also a specific place where it goes in the fuz. Also there is a mold for the seatback cross arm that people use to put in their headset jacks, oxy controllers, etc. Use the MOLDS and materials while there. Think ahead to anything that you'll be doing that you can lay-up or mold while there. Other examples - bracket for ELT antenna (most are putting behind the copilot seat on a simple L bracket), bracket for the rain seal pump... Etc. Use catch-up time. - We went to the store and bought sandwich stuff to make lunches with and brought our lunch everyday, that way, we could eat in 20 mins and go back and do some more catch-up work. If this is your first kit, do some web research of the process of working with epoxy and fiberglass, learning or understanding the basics will speed up the initial learning process. While there make sure you do the following. - once you start building, set down with your "foreman" and make sure he understands that you've not done this before, that you'd like to learn quickly and that you expect that he and his team will show you how it's done by explanation as well as demonstration. Make sure they slow down for the first half a day, and provide you with good explanations. You'll cover most of the building processes in that first day. - each day, go over the weeks "check off list" with your "foreman" to verify that you are on schedule, behind, or ahead and workout the options to remedy. If ahead, work to pickoff a few other items that are easily accomplished. Lastly, hope like heck that there is another Legacy doing thru the process in front of you. In other words, that's actively being worked on, but is ahead of you.... Examples of work, saved us sooooo much time... Hope this helps, let me know if you have any further questions. Alan ----------------------------------------- Subject: lancair build assist Hope you don't mind an individual response. Saw your post and since I am planning on going out for 3 wks to start on a legacy RG in March, wanted to ask a few questions. Did you go alone or bring a helper? Do you think a helper is needed or desirable. Any tips or of doing things etc. ANy thing else you think is worth passing on would be much appreciated. Thanks Dan Ballin 34 Wyman St. Medford, MA 02155 ----------- 781-866-1455