X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:59:37 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.207] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c3) with ESMTP id 742876 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:56:45 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.144.207; envelope-from=VTAILJEFF@aol.com Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id q.dd.2f018525 (17377) for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:55:58 -0400 (EDT) From: VTAILJEFF@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:55:58 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Insurance X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1128095758" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1128095758 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/30/2005 10:23:36 A.M. Central Standard Time, lancair@ustek.com writes: But I'll be flying soon and the clock is ticking. I have a broker looking elsewhere now for options less heinous. Mr. Simon, You make this AIG/ Lancair insurance thing sound like a conspiratorial plot between Lancair and the entire aviation insurance industry to corner the market and keep you and others from flying. Far from it. The facts are: not too long ago NO ONE could get insurance for a IVP Turbine; IVP insurance was/ is expensive from anyone IF you could get it. Your statements here lead me to conclude that you do not want or need training nor do you want anyone inspecting your aircraft. You are free to do so and the insurance industry is free to decline coverage or to price it accordingly. There are other companies besides AIG (GLobal/ London etc.) that write coverage but most require annual training. Lancair did not negotiate that with them-- that was their decision and is customary in this type aircraft. Three years ago when I was completing my IVP, AVEMCO withdrew from the IVP market and left quite a few of us high and dry. Lancair worked very hard to get companies to consider underwriting the coverage. You do those people at Lancair a disservice by offering your uniformed views here. IMHO, the options presented by Lancair and AIG are "less heinous" than what you propose. Respectfully, Jeff Edwards LIVP N619SJ -------------------------------1128095758 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 9/30/2005 10:23:36 A.M. Central Standard Time,=20 lancair@ustek.com writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>But I'll=20 be flying soon and the clock is
ticking.  I have a broker looking= =20 elsewhere now for options less heinous.
Mr. Simon,
 
You make this AIG/ Lancair insurance thing sound like a conspiratorial=20= plot=20 between Lancair and the entire aviation insurance industry to corner the mar= ket=20 and keep you and others from flying. Far from it.
 
The facts are: not too long ago NO ONE could get insurance for a IVP=20 Turbine; IVP insurance was/ is expensive from anyone IF you could get it.
 
Your statements here lead me to conclude that you do not want or n= eed=20 training nor do you want anyone inspecting your aircraft. You are free to do= so=20 and the insurance industry is free to decline coverage or to price it=20 accordingly. There are other companies besides AIG (GLobal/ London etc.) tha= t=20 write coverage but most require annual training. Lancair did not negotiate t= hat=20 with them-- that was their decision and is customary in this type aircraft.=20
 
Three years ago when I was completing my IVP, AVEMCO withdrew from the=20= IVP=20 market and left quite a few of us high and dry. Lancair worked very hard to=20= get=20 companies to consider underwriting the coverage. You do those people at Lanc= air=20 a disservice by offering your uniformed views here.
 
IMHO, the options presented by Lancair and AIG are "less heinous"=20= than=20 what you propose.
 
Respectfully,
 
Jeff Edwards
LIVP N619SJ
 
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