X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:54:26 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web40501.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.78.118] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with SMTP id 1055286 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:28:41 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.218.78.118; envelope-from=flycassutts@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 40700 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jul 2005 19:27:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Ar+D3vDQc+1aGaS+6TsyP9YGynRLFNuNhKgwfQB/K2ZS+Yr4EbQr/MAMz9qaw8XzfyboTngIyy9cMTW6ENTOYnJTxs84WhEk8letdCH5xfhtxh0oLzSvfrEb2GDfem9bTN2MpT+gVa123oP4EiS9aoXjlallitiu97KfOZERZeA= ; X-Original-Message-ID: <20050713192756.40698.qmail@web40501.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.74.185.131] by web40501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:27:56 PDT X-Original-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:27:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Art Jensen Subject: Oshkosh arrival tips X-Original-To: Lancair maillist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I talked with Charlie Becker and Fred Statler from EAA about procedures for getting into Oshkosh for High Performance Aircraft. The Warbird/High Performance A/C route is restricted to Turbojet and Twin Turboprop aircraft and Warbirds. Keep in mind that a Navion and others like it are Warbirds and will use this route as long as they fly 130 KTS or better. If you use this route as I understand some do, it is highly unlikely that tower or anyone else will turn you away. However, it there is an incident then it would be reviewed as to why you used this route. In years past controlers at Fisk sorted aircraft by where they thought they would be parking which reduced your taxi time and taxi way congestion. Now aircraft are supposed to be sorted by speed. Aircraft at 135 kts and 2300' will go to a different runway than aircraft flying at 90 kts and 1800'. One note of caution is that if low performance aircraft are being sent to runway 18-36 which is the preferred runway for aircraft flying the Warbird route you will be mixing for landing with a J-3 or like slower aircraft. You will still find low and slow aircraft on that route. The worst times to arrive are between 12:00 and 3:00 because 18-36 is closed for demonstration fly-by activity. Also the first hour after the airshow is very busy. Fred said that you are the pilot in command and should do nothing that would jeopardize yourself or others. If you are requested to do something by a controller that will not safely work for you, tell them you cannot comply, then make a request that can work. In any event be prepared and current for slow flight because on final you will be mixing with slower aircraft. Art Jensen Legacy 927J ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs