X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:20:17 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from gateway1.stoel.com ([198.36.178.141] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with ESMTP id 1034119 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:59:48 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=198.36.178.141; envelope-from=JJHALLE@stoel.com Received: from PDX-SMTP.stoel.com (unknown [172.16.103.137]) by gateway1.stoel.com (Firewall Mailer Daemon) with ESMTP id A4B32E9E1C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PDX-MX6.stoel.com ([172.16.103.64]) by PDX-SMTP.stoel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:58:58 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [LML] OSH arrival tips? X-Original-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:58:58 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <17E9FE5945A57A41B4D8C07737DB6072198175@PDX-MX6.stoel.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: lml Digest #1275 Thread-Index: AcWC2tbF6r6WBaAxSoWjeSLW94FldwAN7pVg From: "Halle, John" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2005 16:58:58.0935 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B06E070:01C58315] Well, I agree everyone should practice slow flight but there are still = problems at the slower speed. In a Legacy, at 90 kts., even with full = flaps, the nose is high and there is restricted forward visability. Not = the right configuration if you are trying as best you can to spot and = avoid other airplanes and trying to figure out a complex arrival = pattern. Best case, you are likely to go low just to keep the rest of = the traffic in sight. At less than 90 kts., it quckly becomes marginal = and, as noted, there is no way to be confident that 90 kts. will be = maintained. I have not gone into OSH but I did go into Arlington at 90 = kts. (mercifully behind a string of 172s that actually flew the = procedure.) If I go to OSH, it will be in the high pattern. "Go practice slow flight - everybody flying to OSH should......... =20 Even though the MAX/MIN speed limit is 135 Kts (or 90), remember that = some idiots think that they should fly at their slowest speed possible, = so be prepared to fly behind them. I have gone behind (for a while) a = Piper Cub that thought 65 Kts was just fine and, at the higher altitude, = behind two twins that were hanging on Vmc"