Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #30619
From: Craig Berland <cberland@systems3.net>
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Subject: [LML] On Boosting Engines, Stressing Crankshaft and TBO
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:18:16 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Alain said: When boosting engines beyond their design output, does Performance Engines take into account the significant stresses imposed on the crankshaft (and other stressed parts, for that matter)?
Walter Atkinson said: Alain,  I think you're on the right track.  There has been compelling evidence shown that the Lycoming crankshaft problem is one of design, not manufacture.
 
 
I do not have any first hand knowledge of the Lycoming fiasco, therefore I will default to Walter as I am confident he is correct.  However, I will point out there are a lot of factors that go into making a reliable engine besides crankshaft ultimate strength. One important item is: How do you fly the engine?  As Water has correctly pointed out in the past...where do you develop peak cylinder pressure.  Is the engine well balanced?  Are other components such as pistons up to the task?  I just returned Saturday afternoon from a visit to Performance Engines relative to them building a 400 hp TSIO 550 for my IV-P.  I was very impressed with Ron Monson and Performance Engines.
 
Back to the crankshaft....General Motors has a very sophisticated computer finite element model program for designing crankshafts.  They still TEST engines.  The only way to test engines is on a dyno or in our case in a plane.  In my mind, the necessary test time has been accomplished on the TSIO 550 to make me comfortable with the engine I want.  There are a lot of these engine flying and the same engine is being raced at 600 to 700 hp.  The racing alone does not make a 400 hp version acceptable, however the ultimate crank strength is pretty good.  The one thing I am 100% confident in is.....if I was to buy a "new" TSIO 550 engine, I would send it to someone like Performance Engines to be "fixed".  If you are not comfortable with a higher hp engine, then go with a "high quality" built standard hp version.  Whatever you choose, I don't think you should need a top overhaul in 800 hrs let alone in 400 hrs.  I believe a good builder will warranty his build unless you are calling the design shots or racing.
 
My direct answer to your question is.....the testing has been done and will continue to be done by those who buy and fly these high hp engines.  On the other hand, just because the "Factory" says its OK does not necessarily make it so. The Lycoming fiasco was do to standard engines going south.  But I also believe you have to be even more careful when venturing away from the norm.  Decide what interests you and talk to those that fly them.  If you want something totally unique, then you are the man....you take the initial risk.
Craig Berland

 
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