X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [66.174.76.208] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.3.5) with HTTP id 1021704 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:19:00 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Induction air filter To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.3.5 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:19:00 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "George Braly" : Craig, I have actually captured a “pure pre-ignition” event data stream on the test stand. Internal cylinder pressure data (50Ksps). The engine had a helicoil tang that would reliably go into pre-ignition at about 70% power with the CHT above 420dF. We played with it - - teasing it for a while into and out of pre-ignition. Then the spark plug departed the engine. Whoops! Regards, George """" Scott: He has de-constructed one or more pistons in the prior engine - detonation was the culprit. Amazingly, probably not! We have watched many detonation events--some even heavy detonation events--some for extended periods-without any ill effects on the piston, cylinder or engine in general. The danger is these turning into pre-ignition, usually from a damaged spark plug from the detonation. That can destroy the engine in 30 seconds and while our observations are that detonation doesn't hole a piston, pre-ignition will do it in a heartbeat. Detonation gets blamed for a lot for which it is completely innocent! Walter """"