X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:39:58 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta13.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.44] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 1010306 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:29:05 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.168.78.44; envelope-from=dfs155@adelphia.net Received: from f3g6s4 ([67.22.49.202]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050622192809.XYDM14360.mta13.adelphia.net@f3g6s4> for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:28:09 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <00d301c57760$e7d52b00$ca311643@losaca.adelphia.net> From: "Dan Schaefer" X-Original-To: "Lancair list" Subject: Re: Induction air filter X-Original-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:30:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Hang in there, John. A "can of worms" is the worng definition - this is merely the usual spirited debate often kicked off on this forum by what is a neat idea, but carries the NIH (Not Invented Here) syndrome. Of course anyone considering using your idea should give the operational implications some careful thought - but that's true of of anythig we do to our experimental airplanes. I, for one, think your device is quite elegant and useable in a lot of applications. I can't see all that much difference between the automatic alternate air feature on your unit picking up air from inside the cowl and those that use a spring-loaded door to do the same thing. If that's a severe problem, then a number of certificated aircraft have it too. For NA engines, I can't see how ingesting lower cowl free air can result in higher IAT's than when one pulls the carb heat knob and pulls in air heated by the exhaust pipes. However, having made my living from an engineering background, I'm willing to admit that sometimes the old acronym "ASSUME" (ASS Out of U and ME) always lurks and can jump up and bite one. I still think your idea is an elegant solution to what has been bugging me for a long time - mainly, how to get a filter for ground operations into the very limited space on my early 235. I will use your idea (and the device if available) when I do the long delayed rebuild of the lnlet scoop (for other reasons) on my cowl. Also, to be sure I'm not ASSUMING anything, I will measure the IAT's before and after. Good ideas (or at least ones that seem to be) always generate lots of give and take on the list, looks to me that this is one of those. Stick around. Dan Schaefer