X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 09:01:05 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from HQEMGATE01.nvidia.com ([216.228.112.170] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 944492 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 14 May 2005 23:30:54 -0400 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.228.112.170; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net Received: from hqemfe03.nvidia.com (Not Verified[172.16.227.123]) by HQEMGATE01.nvidia.com id ; Sat, 14 May 2005 20:30:06 -0700 Received: from thelma.nvidia.com ([172.16.228.84]) by hqemfe03.nvidia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 14 May 2005 20:30:07 -0700 Received: from ccaselt (cvpn2-4-104.nvidia.com [10.2.4.104]) by thelma.nvidia.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA15085 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 20:30:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Message-ID: <026601c558fe$63ead900$6804020a@nvidia.com> From: "colyncase on earthlink" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] crash safety X-Original-Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 20:30:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0263_01C558C3.B61E8E50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Original-Return-Path: colyncase@earthlink.net X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2005 03:30:07.0431 (UTC) FILETIME=[641A4D70:01C558FE] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0263_01C558C3.B61E8E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To Mr. Lancair in charge of safety: Respectfully I am suggesting you review information on the link = atl@atlinc.com. None of the recent posts re Shannon's accident focused on the actual = cause of the fatality, but instead -- on the causes of the engine = failure in-flight. The final cause of the fatality was fire. =20 Terrence, I'm interested in pursuing this. I actually have an aux tank built = by fuelsafe which has foarm in it to manage flammability. However, one = of the other mailing list members commented that foarm makes it = difficult to purge the water from a tank. So that is one issue with = foam. I'd like to know more about your check valve idea. I have a IVP which is probably a different problem than a 320 so my = comments below reflect that. I have noted that most Lancair's that crash also burn = enthusiastically but I don't know what the mechanism is. I would = guess: 1) fuel lines rupture at the wing root. Do you have a solution for = that? Seems like you would need a remote valve. 2) fuel tank (wing) breaks and spills. Foarm would help here but = how do you replace it every 10 years? ...and deal with the water. = bladder inside wing would be problematic given the replacement problem = and in the IV the number of ribs and spars that cut through the tank = area. Colyn Case ------=_NextPart_000_0263_01C558C3.B61E8E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

To Mr. Lancair in charge of=20 safety:

Respectfully I = am suggesting=20 you review information on the link atl@atlinc.com.

None of the = recent posts re=20 Shannon's accident focused on the actual cause of the = fatality,=20 but instead -- on the causes of the engine failure = in-flight.

The final cause = of the=20 fatality was fire.

Terrence,

I'm interested in = pursuing=20 this. I actually have an aux tank built by fuelsafe which = has foarm=20 in it to manage flammability. However, one of the other = mailing list=20 members commented that foarm makes it difficult to purge the water from = a=20 tank. So that is one issue with foam.

I'd like to know = more about your=20 check valve idea.

I have a IVP which = is probably a=20 different problem than a 320 so my comments below reflect = that.

I have noted that = most Lancair's=20 that crash also burn enthusiastically but I don't know what the = mechanism=20 is. I would guess:

1) fuel lines = rupture at the=20 wing root. Do you have a solution for that? = Seems like=20 you would need a remote valve.

2) fuel tank (wing) = breaks and=20 spills. Foarm would help here but how do you replace it = every 10=20 years? ...and deal with the water. bladder inside wing would be=20 problematic given the replacement problem and in the IV the number of = ribs and=20 spars that cut through the tank area.

Colyn Case

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