X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:22:42 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.202.55] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 942698 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:19:44 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.202.55; envelope-from=bjburr@mwheli.com Received: from vaio (c-67-186-218-101.hsd1.ut.comcast.net[67.186.218.101]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005051315185601100jv6v6e>; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:18:56 +0000 From: "Bryan J. Burr" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [LML] Re: new regs X-Original-Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 09:12:47 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <00c501c557ce$3f88b310$0400a8c0@VAIO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C6_01C5579B.F4EE4310" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C6_01C5579B.F4EE4310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit N8700.42 is a Notice that is intended to clarify the new reg 14CFR61.31 (k)(2)(iii)(B) which is a new regulation. It was made law on July 27, 2004 and was titled "Certification of Aircraft and Airmen for the Operation of Light-Sport Aircraft; Final Rule". The E.A.A. has made an intrepretation and Claudette Colwell posted this yesterday to the group. I quote..... "From: Randy Hansen [ mailto:rhansen@eaa.org] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 10:08 AM To: Steve/Claudette Colwell Subject: RE: [LML] new regs Claudette, the reference you can't find is on our web page: http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/050509_rating.html The key is that if you are currently hold a pilot certificate with a SEL airplane category/class rating, then you don't need to do anything to fly passengers in a SEL experimental airplane. However, if your SE airplane is on floats, and you only held a SEL rating, then you would need to comply with the conversion requirements before flying passengers. Questions? Randy So my suggestion is to do your own research on this. There definately is a rule. Every pilot must determine if he has to change something. Bryan Burr N132BB -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ben Baltrusaitis Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:04 AM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] Re: new regs Here is a reply from an FAA man: The Notice 8700.42, is not a FAR rule and is only advisory in nature. The notices are for information and cannot be used in any enforcement case. Trying to enforce a Notice is like trying to enforce an Advisory Circular they are for information only. Your phase 1 and 2 limitations are what you have to go by. Until part 61 is changed nothing will happen. However I think all pilots should send a comment to the FAA or your local congress person stating how you feel about the FAA changing rules. The squeaky wheel gets greases so to speak. ----- Original Message ----- From: lhenney@attg.net To: Lancair Mailing List Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 10:42 AM Subject: [LML] Re: new regs Bryan, Chris, Am I missing something here? Does this discussion imply that homebuilders were in some way exempt from rating requirements? It sounds that its water under the bridge anyway. Curious what I'm missing? Larry Henney -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/lml/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.9 - Release Date: 5/12/2005 ------=_NextPart_000_00C6_01C5579B.F4EE4310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
N8700.42 is a Notice that is intended to clarify the new reg = 14CFR61.31=20 (k)(2)(iii)(B) which is a new regulation.  It was made law on July = 27, 2004=20 and was titled "Certification of Aircraft and Airmen for the Operation = of=20 Light-Sport Aircraft; Final Rule".
 
The=20 E.A.A. has made an intrepretation and Claudette Colwell posted this = yesterday to=20 the group.  I quote.....
 
"From:=20 Randy Hansen [mailto:rhansen@eaa.org]

Sent: Thursday, May 12, = 2005 10:08=20 AM

To: Steve/Claudette = Colwell

Subject: RE: [LML] new = regs

Claudette, the reference = you can't find=20 is on our web page: = http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/050509_rating.html

The key is that if you = are currently=20 hold a pilot certificate with a SEL airplane category/class rating, then = you=20 don't need to do anything to fly passengers in a SEL experimental = airplane.=20 However, if your SE airplane is on floats, and you only held a SEL = rating, then=20 you would need to comply with the conversion requirements before flying=20 passengers.

Questions?

Randy

 

So my=20 suggestion is to do your own research on this. There definately is a = rule. =20 Every pilot must determine if he has to change = something.

Bryan=20 Burr

N132BB

-----Original Message-----
From: = Lancair Mailing=20 List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ben=20 Baltrusaitis
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:04 = AM
To:=20 Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: new=20 regs

Here is a reply from = an FAA=20 man:

The Notice 8700.42, is not a FAR rule and is only advisory = in=20 nature. The notices are for information and cannot be used in any = enforcement=20 case. Trying to enforce a Notice is like trying to enforce an Advisory = Circular they are for information only.
Your phase 1 and 2 = limitations are=20 what you have to go by. Until part 61 is changed nothing will happen. = However=20 I think all pilots should send a comment to the FAA or your local = congress=20 person stating how you feel about the FAA changing rules. The squeaky = wheel=20 gets greases so to speak.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 lhenney@attg.net
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 = 10:42=20 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: new = regs

Bryan, Chris,

Am I missing something = here?  Does=20 this discussion imply that
homebuilders were in some way exempt = from=20 rating requirements?  It
sounds that its water under the = bridge=20 anyway.  Curious what I'm missing?

Larry=20 Henney


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