X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 20:55:04 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.202.64] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 942050 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 12 May 2005 18:19:42 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.202.64; envelope-from=bjburr@mwheli.com Received: from vaio (c-67-186-218-101.hsd1.ut.comcast.net[67.186.218.101]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005051222185701600qt8hue>; Thu, 12 May 2005 22:18:58 +0000 From: "Bryan J. Burr" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [LML] new regs X-Original-Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 16:12:34 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <004401c5573f$c52c7b30$0400a8c0@VAIO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Thanks to Steve and Claudette Colwell I have copied the following from the EAA website. It defines the situations that the new airman certificates must be issued. Bryan N132BB EXPERIMENTAL/HOMEBUILT PILOTS REQUIRED TO HAVE CATEGORY AND CLASS RATING TO CARRY PASSENGERS May 9, 2005 - On April 21, 2005, FAA Flight Standards reinforced a regulatory requirement for passenger carrying experimental/amateur-built aircraft pilots to have category and class ratings for the aircraft they intend to fly. The new Notice, N 8700.42, also provides a "grandfather" clause allowing current pilots who do not possess the required ratings a limited window of opportunity (through August 31, 2005) to obtain them. It is important to note that this affects only those pilots who wish to carry passengers in an experimental aircraft for which they do not hold the appropriate category and class rating. Pilots who do not carry passengers in their experimental aircraft, and pilots who already hold the category/class rating appropriate to the aircraft they are flying are not affected. Here's the procedure: 1. The airman must complete an FAA Form 8710-1. 2. The airman must currently hold a Recreational Pilot certificate or higher. 3. The airman must have at least five hours as pilot in command flight time in the category, class, make, and model of experimental aircraft between September 1, 2004 and August 31, 2005. 4. An authorized flight instructor must provide a logbook endorsement that the applicant is proficient to act as PIC of that category, class, make, and model of experimental aircraft. 5. The airman must make an appointment with a DPE or an FAA Operations Inspector (ASI), who will verify that 1-4 are completed correctly, then issue the new certificate. No DPE or ASI flight evaluation is required. 6. The new pilot certificate will be issued with the following restriction placed on it: "Authorized Experimental Aircraft: (category) and (class), (make) and (model)." Examples: a. Pilots who hold a private pilot SEL airplane category and class rating certificate, and fly a SEL experimental aircraft, no action is required. b. Pilots who hold a private pilot SEL airplane category and class rating certificate, and fly a multi-engine experimental aircraft (MEL), will need to comply with the new requirements. c. Pilots who hold a private pilot SEL airplane category and class rating certificate, and who fly an experimental single-engine sea plane, will need to comply with the new requirements. d. Pilots who hold a private pilot Glider category and class rating certificate, and who fly an experimental single-engine helicopter, will need to comply with the new requirements. Designated Airworthiness Representatives (DARs) or FAA Inspectors (ASIs) will continue issuing operating limitations without this new requirement, until the FAA issues the revision based on notice N 8700.42. However, at the time the operating limitations are issued, DARs/ASIs will brief the builder/owner of the new requirement. This new requirement does not do away with requirement for the pilot to meet FAR 61.31(e), (f), (g), (h), (i), or (j). 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If you have any comments or questions contact webmaster@eaa.org -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Christopher Zavatson Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:19 AM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] new regs What's up with this?? from AVweb Homebuilt Pilots Face Currency Review The FAA is underscoring regulatory requirements for pilots who fly passengers in homebuilt aircraft. A new notice would restrict them to flying passengers only in planes in which they are qualified and experienced. Currency and proficiency rules apply to those who take people for rides in their experimental aircraft and EAA says current pilots have until Aug. 31, 2005, to prove they have the necessary category and class ratings for the aircraft they fly. Those who always fly solo will not need to fly through the bureaucratic hoops. Under the new notice, which was issued April 21, affected pilots will have fill out a form and make sure their recreational or higher certificate is in order. Flying passengers requires that the pilot have at least five hours as PIC in the category, class, make and model of the experimental aircraft in question between Sept. 1, 2004, and Aug. 31, 2005. An authorized flight instructor must make a logbook entry attesting to the pilot's proficiency with the aircraft and then the pilot must show the log to a designated pilot examiner or FAA Operations Inspector. A new pilot certificate will then be issued restricting the pilot to flying that particular experimental aircraft (or any others for which he or she has done the paperwork). Chris Zavatson -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/lml/