Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:52:38 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.103] (HELO ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c3) with ESMTP id 828545 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:30:21 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.103; envelope-from=hapgoodm94@alum.darden.edu Received: from HP780N (cpe-065-184-084-150.nc.rr.com [65.184.84.150]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j2TFTWL5011318 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:29:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Matt Hapgood" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: RE: [LML] ICE X-Original-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:29:42 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Bill, Thanks for the story. What was the lesson learned? I picked up some ice two weeks ago on my way to Florida - not as bad as yours but still got my attention. Weather called for freezing level at 4,000 feet and 38 degrees at the surface. Ceilings 800 feet. I departed Burlington NC to Boca Raton FL - minimum IFR altitudes were around 2000 feet then dropping to 1300 feet. 10 minutes into the flight I started picking up rime ice at 4,000 feet. Descended to 3,000 feet. Still picking up ice. Down to 2,000 feet, airspeed at 140 KIAS at 75% power. Ice came off the canopy but not off the wings. 20 minutes at 2,000 feet and there was still ice on the wings. PIREP at 6,000 feet near me reported between layers and temperature of 36 degrees. I mashed the power forward and climbed to 6,000 where I quickly shed the ice. Before I left I asked the weather briefer how accurate their freezing level forecast was - she reported +/- 1,000 feet. This was one of those flights I was considering scrubbing anyway. I wish I had. Now I know there freezing levels probably aren't +/- 1000. Much as I love my 360 - the speed, range, efficiency and fun-factor are hard to top - I sometimes wish for things like: 1. Backup static source. Unscrewing the nut inside the cabin is better than a bouncing altimeter, but gives me a bit of concern shooting approaches - how accurate is the altimeter???? 2. De-ice would be oh-so-nice Matt