Return-Path: Received: from [65.33.163.227] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.3c3) with HTTP id 827424 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:07:16 -0500 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: Need IVP Horizontal Stab advice To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.3c3 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:07:16 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001f01c5335d$bef46530$7486e718@D9T70F41> References: <001f01c5335d$bef46530$7486e718@D9T70F41> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "Tom Sullivan" : I have gotten as far as I can go efficiently with my plane on the rotisserie pending my turbine belly tank arrival. It looks like I would be struggling to keep busy without finishing my intentionally delayed tail feathers (makes rolling it over so much easier). So I spent a good day dropping, jigging, leveling and securing the fuselage for that work. I had to heat and straighten the lower fuselage at the rudder area for true plumb. In doing that I also had to perform a flox release on the mount area for the stab, since it was no longer a good fit. I have a 1999 vintage fast build with factory performed wing mating, and can't remember at this time what I found when rechecking for level on the wings back a few years ago when I did the winglets. I know it was really close or right on, just not sure. Now the fuselage is very secure and level in a location that will not allow wing installation. The manual shows installing the stab before the wings are on, so it would seem installing per manual (with everything leveled to the factory spec's) would be acceptable. I am just concerned that if the wings were off a tenth of a degree or something, the stab would be level with the fuselage, hence not true with the wings. Am I splitting hairs here? It would sure be easier to just install the stab. The second question, the manual show .6 degrees incidence, I found in the archives some builders going to .4 degrees. I am at .5 with the flox release, and could go up or down a tenth real easy. With the turbine, is there a better setting than the original .6 degrees? Thanks, Tom Sullivan Iron Mountain, MI [I'll stick in my 2c, for what it's worth... generally I would prefer to have the wings affixed to the fuselage prior to fitting the horizontal stab. This would guarantee that both the wing/fuselage and stab/fuselage placements matched. With the wings attached you have a 30+ foot line with which to level the fuselage in the roll axis, as a fraction of a degree error across the 4 feet of fuselage gets magnified almost 8 times out at the wingtips. With the wings attached you level them from the tips and the fuselage then goes where it has to go. Then you match the stab to the wings and everything is aligned properly. Keep in mind that the wings and stab are the flying surfaces and the fuselage is pretty much "along for the ride" while it performs its function of being the common link between those two components. Doing the stab with the wings on also insures that the visual relationship between those two components matches when the aircraft is viewed from the front or back. For my way of thinking, accepting that the spar box (the interface between the wings and fuselage) is perfectly aligned across that 4 feet available for measurement (that then gets transferred to the spar mounting location) is a leap of faith I'd rather not take. YMMV of course. FWIW. ]