Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 11:57:04 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.4.35.192] (HELO hotmail.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 572086 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 10:47:30 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.4.35.192; envelope-from=gary21sn@hotmail.com Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 07:47:00 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: Received: from 67.42.59.100 by BAY12-DAV18.phx.gbl with DAV; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:46:45 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [67.42.59.100] X-Originating-Email: [gary21sn@hotmail.com] X-Sender: gary21sn@hotmail.com From: "Gary Edwards" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Re: First flight and intro X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 07:46:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C4E4D5.B7C8E5A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0009.2900 Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 07:46:43 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2004 15:47:00.0418 (UTC) FILETIME=[CFF5BA20:01C4E518] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C4E4D5.B7C8E5A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick, You didn't indicate whether the flaps are the original design top hinge = or modified bottom hinged construction. One half flaps on the top hinge = type would only be about 9 to 10 degrees in flight. Also not indicated = was the quantity of fuel in the wing tanks and the size of the elevator = trim tab. As a result, it is difficult to respond to the issues. It may well be that the elevator trim tab is too small or too short on = travel range or maybe other issues. As a comparison for you, when flying solo, I typically burn down the = header tank to about one-half quantity and allow at least 6 gallons = total, preferably about 8 to 10, in the wing tanks combined for landing = (this is with no baggage). Anything more in the header tank combined = with less in the wing tanks results in marginal remaining travel in the = elevator for the flair in landing. It is just about to the limit of its = travel range. And the stick is way back in my stomach (I'm not fat) = which does not feel very good. Usually I will carry about 12 pounds in = the rear of the baggage area when flying solo. It just feels better in = the flair not having the elevator nearly to the stops and the stick all = the way back. =20 If you should decide to return to the spring trim system, the geared = wheel trim mechanism (Dick Reichel) is a "must" over the original trim = lever. And it is much safer and faster to operate than an electric = servo trim tab. I have flown all three types, and for the 235 airframe, = I believe it is the best of the three. Gary Edwards LNC2 N21SN 235/320 ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C4E4D5.B7C8E5A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rick,
 
You didn't indicate whether the flaps are the original design top = hinge or=20 modified bottom hinged construction.  One half flaps on the top = hinge type=20 would only be about 9 to 10 degrees in flight.  Also not indicated = was the=20 quantity of fuel in the wing tanks and the size of the elevator trim = tab. =20 As a result, it is difficult to respond to the issues.
 
It may well be that the elevator trim tab is too small or too = short on=20 travel range or maybe other issues.
 
As a comparison for you, when flying solo, I typically burn = down the=20 header tank to about one-half quantity and allow at least 6 gallons = total,=20 preferably about 8 to 10, in the wing tanks combined for = landing (this is=20 with no baggage).  Anything more in the header tank combined with = less in=20 the wing tanks results in marginal remaining travel in the elevator = for the=20 flair in landing.  It is just about to the limit of its travel = range.  And the stick is way back in my stomach (I'm not fat) = which=20 does not feel very good.  Usually I will carry about 12 = pounds in=20 the rear of the baggage area when flying solo.  It just feels = better=20 in the flair not having the elevator nearly to the stops and the stick = all the=20 way back.  
 
If you should decide to return to the spring trim system, the = geared=20 wheel trim mechanism (Dick Reichel) is a "must" over the original = trim=20 lever.  And it is much safer and faster to operate than an electric = servo=20 trim tab.  I have flown all three types, and for the 235 airframe, = I=20 believe it is the best of the three.
 
Gary Edwards
LNC2 N21SN
235/320    
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