Return-Path: Received: from mail.calweb.com ([209.210.251.12]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:27:21 -0400 Received: from calweb.com (rmu1-214.calweb.com [207.211.95.214]) by mail.calweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA19579 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <376F1168.E03016BE@calweb.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:30:32 -0700 From: "Hamid A. Wasti" To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Subject: Re: annunciators References: <9906219300.AA930001629@inet001.cardell.com> X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > I have not been satisfied with them > because the LEDs seem to burn out quickly. Leeds have high infant mortality, but that is WAY too high. Looks like they are being over-driven. > I believe the story goes that the factory decided to > remove a resistor in each unit in order to increase the brightness of the > LEDs. > Perhaps the LEDs are not liking the increased voltage they are seeing. LED's are non-linear devices (they are light emitting "Diodes") and are driven by controlling the current through them. All devices are rated for a certain current, typically 25 or 30 milliamps for the large 5 mm T1-3/4 package devices. This is done by putting a resistor in series with the LED so that the voltage across the resistor/LED pair allows the right amount of current to flow through the LED. The formulas for this calculation have already been given by Mar in his comments to this e-mail, so I won't repeat them. Most of the time, the resistor is external to the LED and is sized appropriately for the drive voltage and the desired intensity. There are Leeds with integrated resistors available in the market. Using these saves the hassle of adding s series resistor. The down side for aviation & automotive use is that there are none available for a working voltage of 13.8V. If a LED with an integrated resistor sized for 12V is used in a 13.8V system, the LED will see about 20% more current than intended. Over-driving Leeds on a long term basis is dramatically shortens their life span. I am merely speculating here, but this is what may have happened -- a 12V LED/resistor pair being used in a 13.8V system. You do have a 14V system and not a 28V system? My suggestion would be to replace the Leeds with other Leeds, but with appropriately sized current limiting resistors. they bought these units for 12V application and it is being used in a 13.8V system, the Leeds are seeing a 20% overcorrect, which will shorten their life quite a bit. Another factor to keep in mind when selecting a LED is the viewing angle. The light emitting portion of the LED is actually quite small. The rest of stuff in the LED package is optics that spread this concentrated source of light. It is totally up to the optics how wide the LED can be viewed. Viewed from beyond this angle, the LED will appear very dim. Just a quick scan of the DigiKey catalog lists Leeds with viewing angles from 16 degree to 140 degrees. For an enunciator application, neither a very narrow nor a very broad viewing angle would be suitable. Hamid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML homepage: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html