Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 19:21:31 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 546485 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:13:23 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.138.204; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id q.d6.1a8e6bd9 (3866) for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:12:44 -0500 (EST) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:12:44 EST Subject: Re: [LML] LAHSO X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1101481964" X-Mailer: AOL Strauss Beta Client sub 1180 -------------------------------1101481964 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/26/2004 8:26:09 A.M. Central Standard Time, 5zq@cox.net writes: In the airlines, we receive specific training for LASHO. We have documentation in our manuals for every LASHO runway combination that we are authorized to use. The specific conditions that allow, or would preclude the use of LASHO on a particular runway combination are listed. Over the few years that this program has been in existence, I have been assigned many LASHO clearances. I have refused each and every one. My belief is that if you point speeding airplanes at each other often enough...some day you'll succeed. Why do you WANT to participate in this ill conceived program? Standing by to be flamed, Bill, Good Golly! What is a LASHO? Oh, you mean a LAHSO where one may participate by LAHS. Of course it depends. At KARR: Land 15 and hold short of 9 or land 9 and hold short of 18. Piece of cake. I think I've got about 3500 feet in either case and the cross traffic is usually some Cessna suspended on approach like a slow moving Thanksgiving Day Parade balloon. At some airports and certain wind conditions I would refuse that kind of request. Actually, I have never had that request at an alien airport except at PHOG (on Maui): Landing a C172 on Rwy 5, one is obligated to not enter Rwy 2 where "commercial operations" occur. Of course, one has about 4000 feet to accomplish this LAHSO even though wind shear is always present there between the two peaks on Maui. Perhaps you just don't trust your 747-stretch's brakes at KORD since Da Mayor might be digging up the crossing runway and actually told the tower. Thanks for stirring the pot, it has been a quiet holiday period here on the LML. Weather has been forcing RTITYO (Reject Takeoffs Into That Yuck Operations) on me. No flames for you, just a hot water bottle. Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL (KARR) Some Assembly Required Using Common Hand Tools And Fresh Brake Pads. -------------------------------1101481964 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 11/26/2004 8:26:09 A.M. Central Standard Time,=20 5zq@cox.net writes:

<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>In the=20 airlines, we receive specific training for LASHO. We have
documentatio= n in=20 our manuals for every LASHO runway combination that we are
authorized=20= to=20 use. The specific conditions that allow, or would preclude the
use of=20 LASHO on a particular runway combination are listed.

Over the few y= ears=20 that this program has been in existence, I have been
assigned many LAS= HO=20 clearances. I have refused each and every one. My belief
is that if yo= u=20 point speeding airplanes at each other often enough...some
day you'll=20 succeed. Why do you WANT to participate in this ill conceived=20
program?

Standing by to be flamed,

Bill,

Good Golly! What is a LASHO? Oh, you mean a LAHSO where one= may=20 participate by LAHS.

Of course it depends. At KARR:

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Land 15 and hold short of 9 or land 9 and hold short of 18. Piece= of=20 cake. I think I've got about 3500 feet in either case and the cross=20 traffic is usually some Cessna suspended on approach like a slow moving= =20 Thanksgiving Day Parade balloon.

At some airports and certain wind conditions I would refuse that kind o= f=20 request. Actually, I have never had that request at an alien=20 airport except at PHOG (on Maui):

3D"Diagram

Landing a C172 on Rwy 5, one is obligated to not enter Rwy 2 where=20 "commercial operations" occur. Of course, one has about 4000 feet to=20 accomplish this LAHSO even though wind shear is always present there between= the=20 two peaks on Maui.

Perhaps you just don't trust your 747-stretch's brakes at KORD sin= ce=20 Da Mayor might be digging up the crossing runway and actually told the=20 tower.

Thanks for stirring the pot, it has been a quiet holiday period here on= the=20 LML. Weather has been forcing RTITYO (Reject Takeoffs Into That Yuck=20 Operations) on me. No flames for you, just a hot water bottle.

Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL (KARR)

Some Assembly Required=20
Using Common Hand Tools

And=20 Fresh Brake Pads.

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