Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:27:03 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.207] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 533268 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:52:06 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.144.207; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id q.a9.66812f8f (3866) for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:51:30 -0500 (EST) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:51:29 EST Subject: Re: [LML] Re: VFR for flight testing X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1100537489" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5000 -------------------------------1100537489 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/15/2004 9:57:00 AM Central Standard Time, cfi@instructor.net writes: OK, on a side note.......when you are talking to tower or approach control and will be landing at a towered airport within that approach control, you need to state that you are an experimental. Once you are in the enroute environment, it is not required or necessary to state that you are experimental. When you are talking to the enroute guys, just call yourself a Lancair (or November). The best way to handle this is when you file your flight plan, just put experimental in remarks. That way the information is automated to the guys who need that information (the ones at the tower). The enroute guys could care less, and don't need to know that you are an experimental. It's more important to know what type of aircraft you are. Use the right type designator when you file, or tell the controller what type aircraft you are too. LNC2, LNC4, LNCE, etc. Ron, It always seemed to me that the enroute "controllers" could care less about what equipment one uses to get from point A to point B just as long as one stays on the airway or, these days, stays generally on the course line to "B" (NE Blue States' Iron Fist Air Management notwithstanding). It also seems that a few years back the enroute folks didn't have access to waypoints outside their "region" and needed more info, such as Magnetic (12th century device) Heading and distance - giving a position report of 620 NM ENE of Las Cruces was generally not well received. These days it would appear that everyone knows where the flight is going, even if it is 800 NM that-a-way... It is nice to see that the FAA has finally moved forward off of the IBM 7090 computers - a computer that I wrote programs for back in 1962. Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL (KARR) Some Assembly Required Using Common Hand Tools And something else, but I forget what it is... -------------------------------1100537489 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 11/15/2004 9:57:00 AM Central Standard Time,=20 cfi@instructor.net writes:

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OK, on a side note.......when you are talking to tower or approach cont= rol=20 and will be landing at a towered airport within that approach control, you= =20 need to state that you are an experimental. Once you are in th= e=20 enroute environment, it is not required or necessary to state that you are= =20 experimental. When you are talking to the enroute guys, just call=20 yourself a Lancair (or November). The best way to handle this=20= is=20 when you file your flight plan, just put experimental in remarks. Th= at=20 way the information is automated to the guys who need that information (th= e=20 ones at the tower). The enroute guys could care less, and don't need= to=20 know that you are an experimental. It's more important to know what=20= type=20 of aircraft you are. Use the right type designator when you fi= le,=20 or tell the controller what type aircraft you are too. &nbs= p;=20 LNC2, LNC4, LNCE, etc.

Ron,

It always seemed to me that the enroute "controllers" could care less a= bout=20 what equipment one uses to get from point A to point B just as long as one s= tays=20 on the airway or, these days, stays generally on the course line to "B" (NE=20= Blue=20 States' Iron Fist Air Management notwithstanding). It also seems= =20 that a few years back the enroute folks didn't have access to waypoints outs= ide=20 their "region" and needed more info, such as Magnetic (12th century dev= ice)=20 Heading and distance - giving a position report of 620 NM ENE of Las Cr= uces=20 was generally not well received. These days it would appear that every= one=20 knows where the flight is going, even if it is 800 NM=20 that-a-way...

It is nice to see that the FAA has finally moved forward off of the IBM= =20 7090 computers - a computer that I wrote programs for back in 1962.=20

Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL (KARR)

Some Assembly Required=20
Using Common Hand Tools

And something else, but I forget what it=20 is...

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