Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:17:12 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp810.mail.sc5.yahoo.com ([66.163.170.80] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.1) with SMTP id 413003 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:30:26 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.163.170.80; envelope-from=rfreilich@sbcglobal.net Received: from unknown (HELO corbel) (rfreilich@sbcglobal.net@70.240.89.71 with login) by smtp810.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2004 03:29:56 -0000 From: "rfreilich" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [LML] Accidents X-Original-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 22:29:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011E_01C49B73.7FE3DB00" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcSbcSzkzCr2sHQtTSGDD7EvkRPC0QAKgczw In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011E_01C49B73.7FE3DB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>In training we would slow down to a mild buffet, apply power and be instructed that that was a place >>>we didn't want to go. There are lots of things that we don't want to do in an airplane that we need >>>to practice to the extreme to avoid. Pete, That is the problem exactly! Many people don't understand what an accelerated stall is. What you describe is a straight and level stall. An accelerated stall is where speed (above demonstrated stall speed - clean or dirty) is not the determining factor, rather critical angle of attack. An accelerated stall can occur at almost any flying speed! That is why an AOA indicator is so strongly suggested by the members on this list. Yes, even airliners have screwed in because of the lack of understanding about this by the PICs. Richard Freilich _____ ------=_NextPart_000_011E_01C49B73.7FE3DB00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

>>>In = training we would slow down to a mild buffet, apply power and be instructed that = that was a place = >>>we didn't want to go.  There are lots of things = that we don't want to do in an airplane that we need >>>to practice to = the extreme to avoid.

 

Pete,

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That is the problem = exactly!  Many people don’t understand what an accelerated stall is.  What = you describe is a straight and level stall.  An accelerated stall is where speed = (above demonstrated stall speed – clean or dirty) is not the determining = factor, rather critical angle of attack.  An accelerated stall can occur at = almost any flying speed!  That is why an AOA indicator is so strongly = suggested by the members on this list.  Yes, even airliners have screwed in = because of the lack of understanding about this by the = PICs.

 

Richard = Freilich

 

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