Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:12:56 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.38] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.1) with ESMTP id 412948 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 22:34:32 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.157.38; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.7.) id q.fd.1568939 (3850) for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 22:34:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 22:34:00 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Updated Accident Summary and Graphs X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1095302040" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5000 -------------------------------1095302040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MooooonDoooogggg, I'm afraid that the NTSB doesn't know about reported and unreported incidents. As I have reported before: 1. Landing with official Lancair tow bar touching down first, loss of one prop tip, bent tow bar and severe mental injury to pilot as evidenced by embarassed hang dog look lasting for several weeks. Distraction during preflight (daydreaming is not an official cause). 2. Taxi accident at a strange airport with confusing configuration. Mis-positioning aircraft required taxiing thru (yes, thru) nearest runway end light. Destroyed expensive private property (end light) and gouged a V into one prop blade. Pilot injured in wallet area only. 3. Experimental landing with new technique to eliminate bounce was successful except for tic marks on centerline (professional quality aircraft position) that revealed later transmogrificatioin of prop to q-tip style. Pilot went unpunished except for grounding whilst waiting for new prop (Hartzell has a shelf storing blades for a certain pilot but was unprepared to quickly replace hub, too. Heavy "fine" paid to Hartzell. First experience with bending nose gear fork. 4. Hypoxic short field landing at hot high altitude airport was successful with aircraft stopped by first runway exit. Technique had a shortcoming as pilot was unable to complete taxi with wheels still tucked in the wings. Slight damage to tough aircraft bottom, slight alteration to flap chord, engine due for rebuild anyway and, of course, time for a new prop. Pilot suffered the indignity of the "incident" occurring in front of dinner time crowd at the airport restaurant. FAA finally caught on and required a "709" ride. Inspector was impressed and just wanted to fly the airplane. Was this a CFIT? Will you count these in the database? Have other miscreants confessed? I cannot release the name of this pilot without a freedom of information form submitted along with documentation fees. Follow on: 1. New procedure was established to attach ignition key to pin that holds tow bar halves together. Hard to start the airplane and not know where the tow bar is located. 2. Only taxi over areas that have been ogled before hand. 3. Limit all experiments to several thousand feet above the terra firma. 4. O2 is used on all extended flights over 7000 feet (altitude, not distance). Grayest Hawk PS There were other flights with minor things we call "Oops" - these provide self-training so that one's demeanor stays calm during deviations from the normal and Post Trauma Stress Syndrome is only a cocktail party topic after you are released from the ward. -------------------------------1095302040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MooooonDoooogggg,
 
I'm afraid that the NTSB doesn't know about reported and unreported=20 incidents.
 
As I have reported before:
 
1. Landing with official Lancair tow bar touching down first, loss of o= ne=20 prop tip, bent tow bar and severe mental injury to pilot as evidenced by=20 embarassed hang dog look lasting for several weeks.  Distraction during= =20 preflight (daydreaming is not an official cause).
 
2. Taxi accident at a strange airport with confusing configuration.&nbs= p;=20 Mis-positioning aircraft required taxiing thru (yes, thru) nearest runway en= d=20 light.  Destroyed expensive private property (end light) and gouged a V= =20 into one prop blade.  Pilot injured in wallet area only.
 
3. Experimental landing with new technique to eliminate bounce was=20 successful except for tic marks on centerline (professional quality aircraft= =20 position) that revealed later transmogrificatioin of prop to q-tip=20 style.  Pilot went unpunished except for grounding whilst waiting for n= ew=20 prop (Hartzell has a shelf storing blades for a certain pilot but was unprep= ared=20 to quickly replace hub, too.  Heavy "fine" paid to Hartzell. = =20 First experience with bending nose gear fork.
 
4. Hypoxic short field landing at hot high altitude airport was=20 successful with aircraft stopped by first runway exit.  Technique had a= =20 shortcoming as pilot was unable to complete taxi with wheels still tucked in= the=20 wings.  Slight damage to tough aircraft bottom, slight alteration to fl= ap=20 chord, engine due for rebuild anyway and, of course, time for a new prop.&nb= sp;=20 Pilot suffered the indignity of the "incident" occurring in front of dinner=20= time=20 crowd at the airport restaurant.  FAA finally caught on and required a=20 "709" ride.  Inspector was impressed and just wanted to fly the=20 airplane.  Was this a CFIT? 
 
Will you count these in the database?  Have other miscreants=20 confessed? 
 
I cannot release the name of this pilot without a freedom of informatio= n=20 form submitted along with documentation fees.
 
Follow on:
 
1. New procedure was established to attach ignition key to pin that hol= ds=20 tow bar halves together.  Hard to start the airplane and not know where= the=20 tow bar is located.
 
2. Only taxi over areas that have been ogled before hand.
 
3. Limit all experiments to several thousand feet above the terra=20 firma.
 
4. O2 is used on all extended flights over 7000 feet (altitude, not=20 distance).
 
Grayest Hawk
 
PS There were other flights with minor things we call "Oops" - these=20 provide self-training so that one's demeanor stays calm during deviations fr= om=20 the normal and Post Trauma Stress Syndrome is only a cocktail party topic af= ter=20 you are released from the ward.
 
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