Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:43:30 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m16.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.206] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2) with ESMTP id 385175 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:42:51 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.138.206; envelope-from=VTAILJEFF@aol.com Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-m16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.4.) id q.12f.4a5c3b6f (3866) for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:42:19 -0400 (EDT) From: VTAILJEFF@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <12f.4a5c3b6f.2e64cf0a@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:42:18 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Redundancy pays X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1093891338" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5112 -------------------------------1093891338 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, Sorry my post was so sarcastic... but you guys just don't get it. I have been preaching to the group about airworthiness for years and almost everyone thinks like Shannon did. I was at Oshkosh giving a Forum talk on this very subject four weeks ago with Shannon sitting in the audience. One day later he takes off with a known deficiency with his engine and crashes and kills himself-- because the engine which he knew to be having a problem, quit. This is a blatant violation of the regulations-- not to mention a waste of a fine young life and a tremendous tragedy for Shannon's family. If you were at Oshkosh this year counselling Shannon or in this case, Dan, would you be telling them they should violate the airworthiness regulations and proceed without getting their aricraft repaired? This is what this members of this group constantly advocate- "hey, we are experimental, it gives license to be stupid, arrogant and violate federal aviation regulations..." The only place to be with a malfunctioning engine is on the ground. If the control cable that allows a pilot to control mixture to fails and the secondary safety device works-- fine-- land. The secondary device does not become the primary control device. Fix the control cable then proceed. What part of the regulations in Part 91.3, 91.7, 91.213 does everyone not understand? I will be glad to host a weekend seminar to pass along some of this knowledge.... Regards, Jeff Edwards LIVP N619SJ ATP, CFI, CFII, MEI, Designated Pilot Examiner 2003 National Flight Instructor of the Year Aircraft Accident Investigator www.avsafe.com -------------------------------1093891338 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John,
 
Sorry my post was so sarcastic... but you guys just don't get it. I hav= e been preaching to the group about airworthiness for years and almost every= one thinks like Shannon did. I was at Oshkosh giving a Forum talk on this ve= ry subject four weeks ago with Shannon sitting in the audience. One day late= r he takes off with a known deficiency with his engine and crashes and kills= himself-- because the engine which he knew to be having a problem, quit. Th= is is a blatant violation of the regulations-- not to mention a waste of a f= ine young life and a tremendous tragedy for Shannon's family.  If=20= you were at Oshkosh this year counselling Shannon or in this case, Dan, woul= d you be telling them they should violate the airworthiness regulations = ;and proceed without getting their aricraft repaired?  This is wha= t this members of this group constantly advocate- "hey, we are experimental,= it gives license to be stupid, arrogant and violate federal aviation regula= tions..."
 
The only place to be with a malfunctioning engine is on the ground= . If the control cable that allows a pilot to control mixture to f= ails and the secondary safety device works-- fine-- land. The secondary devi= ce does not become the primary control device. Fix the control cable then pr= oceed. What part of the regulations in Part 91.3, 91.7, 91.213 does eve= ryone not understand? 
 
I will be glad to host a weekend seminar to pass along some of this kno= wledge....
 
 
Regards,
 
Jeff Edwards
LIVP N619SJ
ATP, CFI, CFII, MEI, Designated Pilot Examiner
2003 National Flight Instructor of the Year
Aircraft Accident Investigator
 
 
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