Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #24259
From: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: Weather Display comments.
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:45:30 -0400
To: <lml>
Posted for "Giffen A. Marr" <GAMarr@charter.net>:

 Another interesting point on Weather Displays.
 Giff Marr
 IV-P/20B 21%
 
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     1. 02:28 AM - Re: Garmin GDL 49  (Mark Thomas Mueller)
     2. 09:04 AM - Re: Garmin GDL 49  (David Lloyd)
 
 
 
 ________________________________  Message 1
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 Time: 02:28:59 AM PST US
From: "Mark Thomas Mueller" <mark.t.mueller@comcast.net>
 Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Garmin GDL 49
 
 --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mark Thomas Mueller"
 --> <mark.t.mueller@comcast.net>
 
 I damn near bought the AnywhereWx system at OSH last summer, but I found out
 through chat rooms that there is a problem with the Sat Phone they use for
 data and the KT-76A transponder (which I have in my Tiger). Turns out SOME
 KT-76As interfere with the Sat Phone and prevent data connections. That
 won't work for me, since I was looking for something for serious cross
 countries, and I am not inclined to spend money BEFORE I know if a system
 will work or not.
 
 
Funny that I couldn't get a "straight" answer from ControlVision over this
 issue, but I did confirm it with sever users.
 
 
 NavAir was the first, and so far only, system for the PPC that uses the XM
 Sat Radio data system. Much more reliable, and available across North
 America. They also have a version for Tablet PCs (when and if I can find a
 decent one at the right price that is readable in direct sunlight.)
 
 
 NavAir is also working on "flyable" approach plates similar to ControlVision
 as well.
 
 
For my money, they were the way to go. So far, Customer Service has been
 OUTSTANDING! I had a problem with the first wiring harness they sent me, and
 they shipped me a new one ASAP. Every question or concern has been answered
 within hours.
 
 
 I also looked at the other systems at OSH (Merlin, which is now defunct, and
 WSI). No one else could beat the price/performance of NavAir for my needs. I
 still like the WSI product, but it is just too INSANELY expensive compared
 to what you get with WxWorx. A difference of several thousand dollars for
 non-certified components!
 
 
 Hope that helps,
 
 
 Mark
 
 
 Mark,
 
 Thanks for the detailed update on Garmin's weather data problems and the
 solution that you took with the NavAir system. It is info like this that
 really makes these wonderful "Lists" work for the members. What swayed you
 to the NavAir system over, say, the Anywhere system and others? David
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Time: 09:04:20 AM PST US
From: "David Lloyd" <skywagon@charter.net>
 Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Garmin GDL 49
 
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 Mark,
 Again, thanks for the review.
 I also have friends that use earlier AnyWhere/Control Vision products that
 are having 'no support contact' problems with the AnyWhere folks.  Before it
 was sold to Control Vision, the customer support was very good.  I will be
 at Oshkosh next month and will look up NavAir.  Please keep the "List" group
 informed as you use the system and learn additional details about its
 plusses and minuses, etc. David
 
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From: "Mark Thomas Mueller" <mark.t.mueller@comcast.net>
 Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Garmin GDL 49
 
 
--> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mark Thomas Mueller"
 <mark.t.mueller@comcast.net>

I damn near bought the AnywhereWx system at OSH last summer, but I found out through chat rooms that there is a problem with the Sat Phone they use for data and the KT-76A transponder (which I have in my Tiger). Turns out SOME KT-76As interfere with the Sat Phone and prevent data connections. That won't work for me, since I was looking for something for serious cross countries, and I am not inclined to spend money BEFORE I know if a system will work or not.


Funny that I couldn't get a "straight" answer from ControlVision over this issue, but I did confirm it with sever users.


NavAir was the first, and so far only, system for the PPC that uses the XM Sat Radio data system. Much more reliable, and available across North America. They also have a version for Tablet PCs (when and if I can find a decent one at the right price that is readable in direct sunlight.)


NavAir is also working on "flyable" approach plates similar to ControlVision as well.


For my money, they were the way to go. So far, Customer Service has been OUTSTANDING! I had a problem with the first wiring harness they sent me, and they shipped me a new one ASAP. Every question or concern has been answered within hours.


I also looked at the other systems at OSH (Merlin, which is now defunct, and WSI). No one else could beat the price/performance of NavAir for my needs. I still like the WSI product, but it is just too INSANELY expensive compared to what you get with WxWorx. A difference of several thousand dollars for non-certified components!


Hope that helps,


Mark


Mark,

Thanks for the detailed update on Garmin's weather data problems and the solution that you took with the NavAir system. It is info like this that really makes these wonderful "Lists" work for the members. What swayed you to the NavAir system over, say, the Anywhere system and others? David
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