Return-Path: Received: from [65.33.162.59] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.2b6) with HTTP id 224513 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:45:30 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: Weather Display comments. To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.2b6 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:45:30 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <003101c459ee$58dfffa0$6501a8c0@marrdesk> References: <003101c459ee$58dfffa0$6501a8c0@marrdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "Giffen A. Marr" : Another interesting point on Weather Displays. Giff Marr IV-P/20B 21% -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Avionics-List Digest Server Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 1:55 AM To: Avionics-List Digest List Subject: Avionics-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 06/23/04 * ================================================== Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================== Today's complete Avionics-List Digest can be also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Avionics-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/avionics-list/Digest.Avionics-List.2004-06-2 3.html Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/avionics-list/Digest.Avionics-List.2004-06-2 3.txt ================================================ EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================ ---------------------------------------------------------- Avionics-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 06/23/04: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:28 AM - Re: Garmin GDL 49 (Mark Thomas Mueller) 2. 09:04 AM - Re: Garmin GDL 49 (David Lloyd) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:28:59 AM PST US From: "Mark Thomas Mueller" Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Garmin GDL 49 --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mark Thomas Mueller" --> I damn near bought the AnywhereWx system at OSH last summer, but I found out through chat rooms that there is a problem with the Sat Phone they use for data and the KT-76A transponder (which I have in my Tiger). Turns out SOME KT-76As interfere with the Sat Phone and prevent data connections. That won't work for me, since I was looking for something for serious cross countries, and I am not inclined to spend money BEFORE I know if a system will work or not. Funny that I couldn't get a "straight" answer from ControlVision over this issue, but I did confirm it with sever users. NavAir was the first, and so far only, system for the PPC that uses the XM Sat Radio data system. Much more reliable, and available across North America. They also have a version for Tablet PCs (when and if I can find a decent one at the right price that is readable in direct sunlight.) NavAir is also working on "flyable" approach plates similar to ControlVision as well. For my money, they were the way to go. So far, Customer Service has been OUTSTANDING! I had a problem with the first wiring harness they sent me, and they shipped me a new one ASAP. Every question or concern has been answered within hours. I also looked at the other systems at OSH (Merlin, which is now defunct, and WSI). No one else could beat the price/performance of NavAir for my needs. I still like the WSI product, but it is just too INSANELY expensive compared to what you get with WxWorx. A difference of several thousand dollars for non-certified components! Hope that helps, Mark Mark, Thanks for the detailed update on Garmin's weather data problems and the solution that you took with the NavAir system. It is info like this that really makes these wonderful "Lists" work for the members. What swayed you to the NavAir system over, say, the Anywhere system and others? David ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:20 AM PST US From: "David Lloyd" Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Garmin GDL 49 --> Avionics-List message posted by: "David Lloyd" --> Mark, Again, thanks for the review. I also have friends that use earlier AnyWhere/Control Vision products that are having 'no support contact' problems with the AnyWhere folks. Before it was sold to Control Vision, the customer support was very good. I will be at Oshkosh next month and will look up NavAir. Please keep the "List" group informed as you use the system and learn additional details about its plusses and minuses, etc. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Thomas Mueller" Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Garmin GDL 49 > --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mark Thomas Mueller" > > I damn near bought the AnywhereWx system at OSH last summer, but I > found out through chat rooms that there is a problem with the Sat > Phone they use for data and the KT-76A transponder (which I have in my > Tiger). Turns out SOME KT-76As interfere with the Sat Phone and > prevent data connections. That won't work for me, since I was looking > for something for serious cross countries, and I am not inclined to > spend money BEFORE I know if a system will work or not. > > > Funny that I couldn't get a "straight" answer from ControlVision over > this issue, but I did confirm it with sever users. > > > NavAir was the first, and so far only, system for the PPC that uses > the XM Sat Radio data system. Much more reliable, and available across > North America. They also have a version for Tablet PCs (when and if I > can find a decent one at the right price that is readable in direct > sunlight.) > > > NavAir is also working on "flyable" approach plates similar to > ControlVision as well. > > > For my money, they were the way to go. So far, Customer Service has > been OUTSTANDING! I had a problem with the first wiring harness they > sent me, and they shipped me a new one ASAP. Every question or concern > has been answered within hours. > > > I also looked at the other systems at OSH (Merlin, which is now > defunct, and WSI). No one else could beat the price/performance of > NavAir for my needs. I still like the WSI product, but it is just too > INSANELY expensive compared to what you get with WxWorx. A difference > of several thousand dollars for non-certified components! > > > Hope that helps, > > > Mark > > > Mark, > > Thanks for the detailed update on Garmin's weather data problems and > the solution that you took with the NavAir system. It is info like > this that really makes these wonderful "Lists" work for the members. > What swayed you to the NavAir system over, say, the Anywhere system > and others? David