Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 20:33:46 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b3) with ESMTP id 3225402 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 10 May 2004 20:13:02 -0400 Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.3.) id q.1d3.20901058 (4254) for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 20:12:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <1d3.20901058.2dd17482@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 20:12:50 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] IFR Terminal Procedures on Airnav.com X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1084234370" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 900 -------------------------------1084234370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/10/2004 4:55:11 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.S.Reinath@nasa.gov writes: I've been using airnav.com for researching fuel prices for some time now, but I just noticed that they have added .pdf files of the instrument approaches at the airports in their data base. This is very convenient, but how do you determine that a stand-alone procedure is current? If you go to Santa Barbara, SBA, and download the ILS RWY 7 procedure, the top of the page shows "AL-378(FAA)", and the bottom shows "Amdt 4 04106". Neither of these alpha-numeric codes tells me that the procedure is from the current set. Only the airport page has date information which says: "FAA Information Effective 15 April 2004". If you want to use the procedure, you have to trust airnav.com, unless there is another way to verify that the procedure is current. Anyone know how? Thanks. Mike, Good question. I see that AIRNAVs plates are "electronic" since the pdf is so crisp and clean. I usually get plates from the AOPA site - these seem to be pdf copies of those printed on paper and are much fuzzier but the collection date ( i.e. SE 1 15 APR 04) appears in the margin. Also, AIRNAV only provides the airport approach plates while AOPA provides the entire contents of the terminal procedures publication including alt mins, arrival/departure procedures, etc. I have e-mailed AIRNAV with your query. Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk Sky2high@aol.com II-P N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL (KARR) LML, where ideas collide and you decide! -------------------------------1084234370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 5/10/2004 4:55:11 PM Central Standard Time,=20 Michael.S.Reinath@nasa.gov writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>I've=20 been using airnav.com for researching fuel prices for some time
now, b= ut I=20 just noticed that they have added .pdf files of the
instrument approac= hes=20 at the airports in their data base. This is
very convenient, but how d= o=20 you determine that a stand-alone
procedure is current? If you go to Sa= nta=20 Barbara, SBA, and download
the ILS RWY 7 procedure, the top of the pag= e=20 shows "AL-378(FAA)", and
the bottom shows "Amdt 4 04106". Neither of t= hese=20 alpha-numeric codes
tells me that the procedure is from the current se= t.=20 Only the airport
page has date information which says: "FAA Informatio= n=20 Effective 15
April 2004". If you want to use the procedure, you have t= o=20 trust
airnav.com, unless there is another way to verify that the proce= dure=20
is current. Anyone know how? Thanks.
Mike,
 
Good question.  I see that AIRNAVs plates are "electronic" since t= he=20 pdf is so crisp and clean.  I usually get plates from the AOPA site - t= hese=20 seem to be pdf copies of those printed on paper and are much fuzzier but the= =20 collection date ( i.e. SE 1 15 APR 04) appears in the margin.  Also, AI= RNAV=20 only provides the airport approach plates while AOPA provides the entire=20 contents of the terminal procedures publication including alt mins,=20 arrival/departure procedures, etc.
 
I have e-mailed AIRNAV with your query.
 
 
Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
Sky2high@aol.com
II-P N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL=20 (KARR)

LML, where ideas collide and you=20 decide!
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