Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #22818
From: <Sky2high@aol.com>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Hysol 9339 Question
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 09:51:09 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
In a message dated 2/29/2004 10:08:28 PM Central Standard Time, Newlan2dl@aol.com writes:
All your points are valid.  There is a very large tolerance for structures in these aircraft due to the "knucklehead factor".  I suspect most planes we've seen are pretty well done structurally, whether the sticky stuff is kept beyond the recommended shelf life or not.  For REALLY CRITICAL things, I get new resin and I don't mind spending a few extra bucks.  But in reality, when Martin did the structural analysis, I think he had to design to the level of village idiot.  Well, maybe a step above that.  But a reasonable designer would figure that not everyone is equally talented and some excess tolerance should be given to those who's skills are somewaht deficient.
 
Do I think I will keep this plane forever?  No I don't.  I'll probably need to sell it at some point for the next one to be flying.  So I will plan on doing a very professional job and documenting it.
 
Remember, as soon as someone makes something idot proof, they build a better idiot!
Dan,
 
Righto.  I have used old epoxy for non-structural doodads (a technical term) while I have taken care to use epoxy within its shelf life date stamp for the important stuff.  Remember, some of us actually built the wings onto the spars before those new-fangled fast-build kits emerged from the primordal flox swamp.  Some of us long for the aroma of Saf-T-Poxy II, patiently waiting for the cure whilst new builders watch their 1/4 cup of Jeffco boil off because they thoughtfully lingered over some 2-inch-square pretty-boy cosmetic 1-bid patch (I think of Dennis Miller spouting that out at a mile a minute). 
 
I think the phrase you were looking for is:
 
There is no such thing as a foolproof device since fools are so ingenious. 
 
Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk
Sky2high@aol.com
II-P N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL (KARR)

"...as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns - the ones we don't know we don't know." D. Rumsfeld
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